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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

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To that I will just add that apparently clients (and particularly large corporates/financial institutions) are very conservative when it comes to legal services. A number of lawyers told me some are quite reluctant to allow the use of new legal tech on their matters. Although it would come with a potential discount, as automatization and increased efficiency will mean a lower number of billables, it seems in many cases they are reticent to accept any level of AI-related legal risk. As such, firms can find themselves in the difficult position of wanting to innovate and use AI but also needing to keep clients happy and untroubled by it.
@Andrei Radu thank you so much - I will definitely consider this in the question.
 

Chris Brown

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Hi @Chris Brown and thanks a lot :)!

If I were to name the most important difference at a high level of generality, it was being significantly more organized and consistent with my efforts. Firstly, I started the cycle a lot earlier and took the time at the beginning to make a list of all the firms I was interested in, to note down their deadlines, and then to allocate timeslots for completing them in every week from September to February. Simultaneously, I began to attend lots of firm events (most of them online or organized by my university) and started investing at least 30 mins to one hour per day in improving my commercial awareness (mostly by listening to podcasts while commuting or running errands). This quickly improved my understanding of the world of business and the role of law firms, which led to me discovering a interests in M&A, restructuring, and capital markets. This enabled me to write significantly more persuasive 'Why law?' and 'Why the firm?' answers and was extremely helpful later on when I started doing ACs and interviews.

Secondly, in my second cycle I stopped trying to do everything on my own. I applied for and joined the careers mentorship scheme at my university and had the incredible luck to be allocated an amazing mentor. Getting thorough reviews on my drafts and redrafts of my first few applications was beyond helpful, as I understood for the first time what great application writing looked like and was then able to model all my subsequent work on that. At the same time, I constantly worked together with friends, and we would take a look and give our thoughts on the each others' applications. This was both great both for improving the quality of our writing and spotting mistakes and for making the entire process a lot more enjoyable.

Finally, in my second cycle I invested a lot more of my time in applications: taking everything into account (research, writing, commercial awareness, events, interviews etc) I think I used to spend between 30 and 40 hours per week on it. Together with the other factors I mentioned, this meant I could write a significantly higher number of high quality applications. This is the number one factor that drastically improved my AC progression rate, which is ultimately what enabled me to get VS and TC offers.
Thank you so much @Andrei Radu. This was incredibly insightful! 🙂

As a follow up, how did you navigate choosing which TC offer to accept between DPW, Willkie and Milbank?

What did you base your decision off of? Did you have a particular strategy for this as well? 🐐
 

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    Hi, grad rec have reached out and asked about reasonable adjustments for AC.

    Apart from extra time - does anyone know what adjustments I can get for being neurodiverse?

    Has anyone ever been successful in getting the questions in advance?
    I like to ask for a separate room for individual exercises. I tend to worry when I see others flipping pages on a task. If I'm on page 1, I start to rush, thinking I’m behind and ruining the work I give. I also find it calming to be in a separate room so I can hear my thoughts more.
     
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    Gr33n

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    Hi, grad rec have reached out and asked about reasonable adjustments for AC.

    Apart from extra time - does anyone know what adjustments I can get for being neurodiverse?

    Has anyone ever been successful in getting the questions in advance?

    “Does anyone know what I can get”

    You are making your reasonable adjustments sound like you have just won a free burger at Burger King.

    Ideally, you should have a support plan in place which has been created by a medical expert or disability coordinator. That’s where you will find out what adjustments you will require for work/studies. If they deem that you require written materials or questions in advance, then absolutely you may request this.

    If you do not have this, and you have self diagnosed your neurodivergence, then it is most likely self curable too.

    It’s highly unlikely that you will get the questions in advance as this is a massive risk to law firms and they have no way to stop you from circulating or leaking the information.
     

    BillSikes

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    “Does anyone know what I can get”

    You are making your reasonable adjustments sound like you have just won a free burger at Burger King.

    Ideally, you should have a support plan in place which has been created by a medical expert or disability coordinator. That’s where you will find out what adjustments you will require for work/studies. If they deem that you require written materials or questions in advance, then absolutely you may request this.

    If you do not have this, and you have self diagnosed your neurodivergence, then it is most likely self curable too.

    It’s highly unlikely that you will get the questions in advance as this is a massive risk to law firms and they have no way to stop you from circulating or leaking the information.
    Clown I have a diagnosis
     

    Chris Brown

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    “Does anyone know what I can get”

    You are making your reasonable adjustments sound like you have just won a free burger at Burger King.

    Ideally, you should have a support plan in place which has been created by a medical expert or disability coordinator. That’s where you will find out what adjustments you will require for work/studies. If they deem that you require written materials or questions in advance, then absolutely you may request this.

    If you do not have this, and you have self diagnosed your neurodivergence, then it is most likely self curable too.

    It’s highly unlikely that you will get the questions in advance as this is a massive risk to law firms and they have no way to stop you from circulating or leaking the information.
    Considering the OP said ‘grad rec reached out’ I don’t think they are making it sound anything like what has been described here. It must have been noted on their application for grad rec to know about needing certain adjustments.
     

    Gr33n

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    Considering the OP said ‘grad rec reached out’ I don’t think they are making it sound anything like what has been described here. It must have been noted on their application for grad rec to know about needing certain adjustments.
    All adjustments that someone requires are clearly stated in a support plan or needs based report. The OP should just refer to what is in there and let grad rec know.

    However, from the tone of the post, It seems like they were trying to get extra adjustments which they were not entitled to
     
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