TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[Tintin06]

Hey @Tintin06 , good question. I’m linking @Ram Sabaratnam ’s really wonderful thread here - https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....eme-vs-direct-tc-applications-2024-2025.9147/

PH has been included, as well as a bunch of other firms!!!

That's very helpful pre open day. Thank you.

 

[3000to1shoteverytime]

If your application and tests etc get you to latter stages of an application are they looked at again or if you have gotten to AC at that stage is it merely performance there that counts.

The main reason I am asking is that I see the depth and length at some of the admin suggested answers which simply do not fit in to 300 or 250 or similar word answers especially if you add in how it relates to you. If you discuss at length one area is it not to the detriment of your application to show you are well rounded?

I am having a good hit rate at getting to AC (but haven't converted to a VS yet). So are my application form answers good enough or just good enough to progress but if looked at again later not good enough? (If that makes sense).

 

[Amma Usman]

I'm doing the Eversheds Sutherland application and there is a work experience section and a separate position of responsibility/extra curricular section. I do not have that many extra curricular activities, because I worked 32 hours a week throughout all of university. Would it be worth mentioning running a business for a short period (selling an e-guide with tutorials on making traditional dresses), even thought it was 3 years ago? I am also using this example for the "quality" question just in a lot more detail about the process. I am going to mention organising charity events but other than that I do not have much. Do you think this would put me at a disadvantage.

Hiya @cjwx ,

I strongly believe that you are in no way at a disadvantage. In fact, you have done a lot of really excellent stuff during this period to put in an application.

I want to emphasise that extra-curriculars mean so much more to recruiters than mooting competitions, society participations, etc. Those are certainly great too, but the term extra-curriculars covers, essentially, anything you do outside your free time. Running a business, being self-employed, starting your own venture, all have the potential to help you leverage a lot of skills that law firms - and in fact, any employer, will highly value. For example, what challenges did you face whilst setting up? How did you overcome them? Notice how this on its own brings out two competencies - resilience and problem solving.

The exact timing you executed this doesn’t matter - you had still accomplished it at some point in your life and that is worth celebrating and including in an application. Even organising charity events, which I’m sure you had thoroughly enjoyed doing, shows a passion for the community and this can be likened to the wider pro bono efforts firms engage in.

I would also note that it is not enough to mention positions of responsibilities and extra curriculars without linking it to the core values and competencies the firm looks for in trainees. To find this out, check the firm‘s grad rec website, speak to future trainees, lawyers at the firm, etc. This will place you as a candidate that not only HAS value, but one that can BRING value. At the end of the day, this is what matters.

 

[g.cl.2020344]

I just did a SJT, and I got within the highest bracket for "applied verbal intellect" and in the lowest bracket for "numerical" should I assume a PFO?

 

[Legalstalker]

I just did a SJT, and I got within the highest bracket for "applied verbal intellect" and in the lowest bracket for "numerical" should I assume a PFO?

No! I got this result last year and made it to a firms AC!

 

[g.cl.2020344]

No! I got this result last year and made it to a firms AC!

Amazing thank you! hopefully that happens for me. It's so frustrating when you think a SJT went well, and the feedback report comes and contradicts your answers or skills that you know you have in real life.

 

[Legalstalker]

Hi I wanted to ask if it is normal for Ropes & Gray vacation scheme application to not have a work experience section. I can only see 1 commercial question. It seems very hard to make a decision based solely on that?

 

[Andrei Radu]

I just did a SJT, and I got within the highest bracket for "applied verbal intellect" and in the lowest bracket for "numerical" should I assume a PFO?

I would definitely not simply assume that. The way SJTs are designed, most candidates will often have a lowest scoring bracket. Moreover, if you ask me, (i) applied verbal intellect is very relevant for the practice of trainees, as your basic tasks will always revolve around reasoning around texts; and (ii) numerical skills, though sometimes useful, are comparatively a very minor part of the job.

 

[BobThebIlly]

That HSF test might be the worst one I've ever done... very silly way to assess people

Do u have any last min tips to prep for it? I have no clue what to expect !

 

[JasmineM9]

Hello! Hope everyone is well! For the Latham application, do they review the application SJT and VI holistically or do they put more emphasis on a specific part for example VI or SJT? (Hope it makes sense haha)

 

[airyfairy123]

Hello! Hope everyone is well! For the Latham application, do they review the application SJT and VI holistically or do they put more emphasis on a specific part for example VI or SJT? (Hope it makes sense haha)

I think it’s everything in totality. No way of really knowing so I’d say just put 100% into every element!

 

[SamiyaJ]

For those that did the Latham SJT and VI, how much time do we get to prep for the VI and how much time to speak?

I think for the VI you get 3 mins to prep and 2 mins to answer

 

[FutureTraineeMaybe]

I think for the VI you get 3 mins to prep and 2 mins to answer

Thank you!

 

[hazanelson]

any advice on how to answer this latham question: 'Please give details of your extra-curricular activities, and any prizes, scholarships, positions of responsibility, or noteworthy achievements that will support your application. (300 words)'

 

[Rus]

Hello! Hope everyone is well! For the Latham application, do they review the application SJT and VI holistically or do they put more emphasis on a specific part for example VI or SJT? (Hope it makes sense haha)

Not sure if this helps but I remember in one of their career events they said they'll first consider whether you met the test benchmark, then they'd screen the application, and if it's good they'll look at the video interview and decide whether to progress you. They said it's more of a checklist than anything

 

[kokoprep]

Do people also know if the test has to be done by the application deadline

HEY DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THIS WORKS??????

 

[kokoprep]

Going rouge and drafting for Latham. Does anyone know if the test is also due 2maro at 11:59pm?

Yes please telll

 

[kokoprep]

Not sure if this helps but I remember in one of their career events they said they'll first consider whether you met the test benchmark, then they'd screen the application, and if it's good they'll look at the video interview and decide whether to progress you. They said it's more of a checklist than anything

Hey do you know if the latham test has to be done before deadline or do you get few days after submitting app?

 

[AI212121]

does anyone know if Squire Patton Boggs is okay to abbreviate as SPB or if they prefer just saying Squire for short?

 

[Hana ♥]

Does anyone have any tips for the DLA VI?