I don’t think it matters about your status as a career changer- you should be extremely proud of the hard work you have put in whilst exploring another pathway!
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What are you on about. No one said Tintin shouldn’t be proud. If anything I said their skills would be transferable. Stop making others out to be the bad person. Comprehension is key.
For anybody who has applied to Addleshaw, please do reply letting me know how you have navigated the education section of the application form. Are people pressing 'Add New Qualification' and adding each module grade or just making one entry for their whole degree result. Feel free to PM as well. Thank youuuu
I don’t think your initial comment was necessary… comes across as being patronising. If @Tintin06 says they are a career changer then so be it - no need to question them about it and say nevertheless I’m sure you’ve gained experience?? It’s not everything you must comment on sometimes tap into your emotional intelligence and keep quiet or know how to phrase things to come across less patronising.
No thanks I say it how I see it. No point sugar coating your journey when it is public. You cannot be a career changer if you didn’t change from a career. It’s not rude to point out the truth.
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We have warned you privately about your tone in previous posts and I have edited a number of those previous posts to remove tone that is clearly unnecessarily rude in response to others.
Your response to Tintin is another example of that behaviour.
You talk about people needing to have comprehension but there is also a need to have emotional intelligence and the ability to understand how your posts will be perceived by others.
Please consider this going forward. There will not be any further informal warnings about this.
how is @Tintin06 sugar coating his journey when he is being transparent about everything? what your saying is highly irrelevant. Have you personally followed @Tintin06 through his career journey to know that he isn’t a career changer? Lol. If your this TC guru why are you still searching for a TC and not secured one yet. Stop judging @Tintin06 strategy and let people be.
I am doing everything last minute - deadline is tomorrow
That HSF test might be the worst one I've ever done... very silly way to assess people
Thank you and you're so real for thatI am doing everything last minute - deadline is tomorrow
if anyone is doing the taylor wessing written assessment next week could you please pm me? thank you!
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Heya everyone,
Just a quick reminder to keep our discussions thoughtful and supportive. The forum’s rules are in place to ensure this remains a welcoming space where everyone feels comfortable seeking information or without worrying about being judged or dismissed. There are many people here from all sorts of backgrounds including non-law students, career changers, first year students, foreign applicants and so forth. Please consider your tone and manner of expression, as well as what you say to each other.
Finally, I'd encourage everyone to avoid making authoritative claims about other people's application strategies unless they’re supported by solid evidence or reasoning. Given the nature of the forum, we don't know very much about one another's backgrounds and whether our advice actually makes sense in their situation. Keeping this in mind is important so that we don't end up offering advice that's unhelpful.
Thank you for keeping this space constructive 😊
Just a quick reminder to keep our discussions thoughtful and supportive. The forum’s rules are in place to ensure this remains a welcoming space where everyone feels comfortable seeking information or without worrying about being judged or dismissed. There are many people here from all sorts of backgrounds including non-law students, career changers, first year students, foreign applicants and so forth. Please consider your tone and manner of expression, as well as what you say to each other.
Finally, I'd encourage everyone to avoid making authoritative claims about other people's application strategies unless they’re supported by solid evidence or reasoning. Given the nature of the forum, we don't know very much about one another's backgrounds and whether our advice actually makes sense in their situation. Keeping this in mind is important so that we don't end up offering advice that's unhelpful.
Thank you for keeping this space constructive 😊
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What was the test like? Given there's no practice test on the website.
There's a really short practice test in the 'how to apply' page. It's pretty similar to other firms SJTs tbh, felt like I had seen quite a few of the questions before. The personality part was mega repetitive though
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Hey @svb risk management intern . Honestly, I can’t emphasise how useful this question is to the whole community.
Indeed, you are right in that all these firms share similarities in one way or another - deal scope, client base, market position, and so on. The truth is, this will always be the case. Firms will always work on similar deals and have similar standings in the legal market. Thus, the common question of why X firm, becomes increasingly more difficult when the part ’over its competitors’, is included. However, here is where the interesting part comes in - thorough research and the way in which you tailor your interests to whatever practice area you choose to talk about. This two-tier approach will enable you to find a niche that Latham operates in, perhaps more than its competitors, and tailor your application to that successful/upcoming niche within the wider practice.
As I had already explained, firms will always have niches they specialise in. The ability to tailor your long-term growth aspirations to that area is what will help you bring out that demonstrated interest that is needed for the process.
Let me give you an example with one of Latham’s practices that I’ve once spoken about on the forum within the scope of a similar question to yours…
“ Latham, White & Case, and HSF are among a class of firms with a strong presence in emerging markets, particularly within Africa and the energy/project development sector. Now, it’s funny because many firms have energy and project development practices. However, these firms have a strong presence in emerging markets in Africa - this is their niche. If you have an example of how this resonates with you as a candidate, you’ve not only showed demonstrated interest - you’ve showed specific interest. This is what’ll make your application stand out. Adopt a similar approach to your research on Kennedys, finding a niche in their practices which appeal to you and I’m sure you’ll nail this question. “
This is another example of a post I had made where I tailored such a question given the competitor-focused approach:
“ Ex. 1: ABC Law working on the acquisition of GHY by YUP really appealed to me. This represents the high calibre of deals I would love to get involved in whilst training. This again, is solidified by the firm‘s Band 1 Chambers ranking in Corporate M&A and Private Equity.
Ex. 2: ABC Law working on the energy transition in Africa really appealed to me. Particularly, the firm‘s work on the development of the central power frames in the Somalian region stood out, having been named the largest project financing deal in Africa then. As a Somalian, where inconsistent power supply was one of the bane‘s to my existence growing up, I am keen to support Africa’s energy development as a UK-qualified lawyer.
As you can see, the second example is backed up by specific interest. “
Now lastly, it is important to also ensure that you hit the nail on its exact competitors in that market. The examples you have provided are accurate, but if you seek any more information on this, I have made a guide to identifying a firm‘s competitors and linked it below;
Guide to Identifying a Law Firm’s Competitors
In this guide, I’ll be talking about how to identify a law firm’s competitors. This is a skill that’s not only useful for applications but also helps you get a much better understanding of the legal industry as a whole. Honestly, this was something I initially struggled with. I found it hard to...
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Hey @gazdgazd11 , @Ram Sabaratnam has made a very helpful thread on this. Goodwin is also included, and I’ve linked it here; https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....eme-vs-direct-tc-applications-2024-2025.9147/
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