I spoke to Grad Rec at the Legal Cheek Law Fair, who confirmed that grads can apply for the Insight Days (closing on 12th November). I’ve drafted my application for them, you have nothing to lose by applying.Is it just me or are Davis Polk absolutely not interested in hiring graduates (VS/TC)? Zero mention of "graduate" on their website or recruitment brochure, and having had a quick look on LinkedIn it seems all future trainees/trainees were offered TCs whilst being students.
I am a graduate, but despite all these red flags I feel tempted to apply (as I'm really interested in corp fin and the style of the firm). Please can someone with insight or knowledge of the matter advise. Is it worth applying in my situation/as a graduate?
Looping in @Jessica Booker @Andrei Radu
I have and it does yes.Has anyone taken the Deloitte test, and if so, does it include a VI component?
Are you at Warwick by any chance? No shade to them but I completely relate😂My university is holding an exclusive open day with a firm. And a few dinners with others. We have to apply through our law society but they are corrupt and take all the places for themselves and their friends.
Besides this would a firm be taking notes of students and looking out for their application if they showed good prospect at these events. I am keen to attend but uncertain as to whether I should leave it and apply for standard open days and vacation schemes.
@Jessica Booker any advice
The job simulation assessment includes a VI componentHas anyone taken the Deloitte test, and if so, does it include a VI component?
No I’m not, it’s sad to see other universities go through the same thing. Most of the exec are non law coasting away with their English and History degrees. As I rough it with law.Are you at Warwick by any chance? No shade to them but I completely relate😂
Did my W&C VI a week ago, nothing yetHas anyone that did their W&C VI on the 14th or later received an AC invite or PFO?
Don't know if you've done it yet but it was (like everyone else will say) very conversational. I think it's best to just go through your CV and really reflect on what you got from each experience.any advice for first round jones day interview?
Thank you!The job simulation assessment includes a VI component
They are still sending VI invites out so I assume they are probably in the process of arranging the next AC's, not 100% sure though.Has anyone that did their W&C VI on the 14th or later received an AC invite or PFO?
I don’t see the harm in doing so to get clarity on this.
I recommend going to these events if you can but it’s not an issue if you don’t attend.My university is holding an exclusive open day with a firm. And a few dinners with others. We have to apply through our law society but they are corrupt and take all the places for themselves and their friends.
Besides this would a firm be taking notes of students and looking out for their application if they showed good prospect at these events. I am keen to attend but uncertain as to whether I should leave it and apply for standard open days and vacation schemes.
@Jessica Booker any advice
This specific firm that is hosting the open day has rejected me twice in the past month for their own open day. Is it a bad idea to apply for this as well. This application is done via the firm and not the society.I recommend going to these events if you can but it’s not an issue if you don’t attend.
There maybe a system where you effectively get a “star” flag for attending events like this (but you can get them via law fairs too) but I wouldn’t say they take notes on how you “performed” at a dinner. It would be no more than “keep an eye out for this candidate’s application”. But that won’t influence the decision on your application.
Thank you so much for sharing! Your experience is almost identical to mine which is comforting even if they were not pleasant experiences. I'm sorry you had to go through that.I wish I had someone with a similar experience at the start who would have reassured me and pushed me to apply where I truly want to be. Only now, in my 2nd cycle, have I found this confidence to apply at top firms.
Personal Context:
A levels: ABB - average state school in the midlands.
UG in History at Warwick: 14 modules in total. 2 were graded 2:2 (in final yr) and 1 graded 46 in 1st year. However, the 46 was a result of handing in the wrong essay, the OG mod grade was a 67. Furthermore, I was receiving treatment for depression and social anxiety in my final year. Overall, a mix of high, mid, and low 2:1s and a 1st here n there.
PG in History at Warwick: 5 mods in total. 2 were graded at 2:2 level. Not ideal but I was continuing to receive treatment in my PG degree. The rest were 1sts and a 2:1.
Applying exp
With firms that just ask for the overall grade, I.e, 2:1, 1st or 2:2. I never had a problem. I always progressed to the next stage off the back of my written app. I even landed an AC for my first VS application!
With firms that ask for a module breakdown, I never had any issues. I recently attend the Baker McKenzie open day and Mishcon Open day which asked for breakdowns. I have also been offered mentoring schemes with Macfarlanes, an elite sports firm, HSF, etc. Safe to say I’ve been fine.
At the Bakers open day they said they look for a strong 2:1. However, (and this is important), this doesn’t mean you need a 2:1 in every mod. They recognise that everyone slips up, and that they have many trainees in the firm who have done so. There is no definitive ideal academic record. This is close to what they said word for word, as best as I can remember!
What does this mean for me?
I’m not targeting MC/US firms. Mostly due to the WLB n culture but also the practice interests I have. I also don’t feel that my legal career is “successful” because I joined an “elite” firm. I feel confident to go where I want to be on the basis of my passions and ambitions.