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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

LawLawLawLawLaw

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Hi there! I'm applying for a host of vac schemes, open days, training contracts etc as a non-law grad starting my conversion in January. I did a small vac scheme for a boutique firm over summer and I don't know whether its better to apply straight for training contracts or to vac schemes? Any advice would be amazing, thanks!!
 

Bubbles O_O

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    For VSs recruited on a rolling basis, when is realistically 'too late' before the final deadline for applications to be worth sending off?

    Thinking about applying to Dechert WVS today (deadline 25th oct, rolling) but if its already a futile effort then I'll save it for spring.

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    Apple

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    For VSs recruited on a rolling basis, when is realistically 'too late' before the final deadline for applications to be worth sending off?

    Thinking about applying to Dechert WVS today (deadline 25th oct, rolling) but if its already a futile effort then I'll save it for spring.

    Thanks
    I think its never really futile, i got invited to AC for HL WVS in DECEMEBER, like a week before it starts.

    It just becomes increasingly competitive I think, unless you specifically want the WVS date then probs go spring imo.
     
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    Bubbles O_O

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    I think its never really futile, i got invited to AC for HL WVS in DECEMEBER, like a week before it starts.

    It just becomes increasingly competitive I think, unless you specifically want the WVS date then probs go spring imo.
    Ok thanks, I appreciate the insight. In what way does it get more competitive? Is that because they start inviting people for assessment centres far in advance of the deadline, and inevitably start giving out offers, thus reducing the pool of places in advance of the 'bulk' of applications come in? I guess the relevant question is whether you or anyone else has got VS offers / AC offers in advance even of the application deadline.

    Cheers
     

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    Ok thanks, I appreciate the insight. In what way does it get more competitive? Is that because they start inviting people for assessment centres far in advance of the deadline, and inevitably start giving out offers, thus reducing the pool of places in advance of the 'bulk' of applications come in? I guess the relevant question is whether you or anyone else has got VS offers / AC offers in advance even of the application deadline.

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    That's just my theory, it might not be the case, Jessica will know more. But its definitely not futile, if its between applying or not, apply.

    EDIT: Actually, a recruiter at HL told me as they near the deadline for their schemes the "optional additional information" essentially becomes mandatory to distinguish between applicants. So I suppose it does just become a bit more competitive, as in lots of apps for less spots.
     
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    Bubbles O_O

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    Ok thanks, I appreciate the insight. In what way does it get more competitive? Is that because they start inviting people for assessment centres far in advance of the deadline, and inevitably start giving out offers, thus reducing the pool of places in advance of the 'bulk' of applications come in? I guess the relevant question is whether you or anyone else has got VS offers / AC offers in advance even of the application deadline.

    Cheers
    @Jessica Booker
     

    Bubbles O_O

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    That's just my theory, it might not be the case, Jessica will know more. But its definitely not futile, if its between applying or not, apply.

    EDIT: Actually, a recruiter at HL told me as they near the deadline for their schemes the "optional additional information" essentially becomes mandatory to distinguish between applicants. So I suppose it does just become a bit more competitive, as in lots of apps for less spots.
    Thanks, appreciate the responses
     

    Andrei Radu

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    Hi there! I'm applying for a host of vac schemes, open days, training contracts etc as a non-law grad starting my conversion in January. I did a small vac scheme for a boutique firm over summer and I don't know whether its better to apply straight for training contracts or to vac schemes? Any advice would be amazing, thanks!!
    Hi @LawLawLawLawLaw! The short answer is that you should still apply mostly for vacation schemes. This is is what I advised even candidates who had more than one prior VS at large firms and/or many other legal work experiences. The reason is that the vast majority of firms either (i) recruit solely through the VS track, or (ii) have a strong preference for recruiting solely through the VS track. Notwithstanding how impressive your performance may be, it will be exponentially more difficult to convince a firm to make a substantial investment into you in the form of a TC offer after only meeting you for the day of the AC. I have actually heard some horror stories of candidates who seemed brilliantly gifted in their interviews but were unable to function in an office setting in the VS at all. That is why firms have increasingly looked to assess applicants on more than their CV and interview performance, by looking holistically as to how well they fit in their teams. As such, even if a firm has a direct TC track, I would encourage you to apply for a VS unless one of the caveats bellow apply:
    • The firm is one of the few that is know to recruit a very substantial part of their trainee cohort from the direct TC route;
    • You would not be able to apply to the VS on time, but because its deadline is later in the year you would have time to submit a direct TC application;
    • Visa working restrictions for the VS period ;
    • Other reasons why you will generally be unavailable to work in the VS period;
     

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