TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

seaweed.bond

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This may have been asked already but... I have an in-person AC interview coming up and I believe that there will be (at a minimum) two fee-earners interviewing me. When one of them asks me a question, and I have to respond, should I look at both interviewers back-and-forth when responding? Or should I only focus on the person that’s asked me?

Alternatively, does it depend on the question/who is writing notes on my answers lol💀

@Jessica Booker @Amma Usman
 

NMA

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@Jessica Booker Hi Jessica, I submitted my application and interview experiences in the middle of the week, and I assume the forms were not closed as I was able to complete them. The email said the gift cards would be issued by 31 Jan - if I didn't get them, does that mean what I submitted was not valid?
 

SamiyaJ

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Just did the PW SJT:

Top for verbal, middle for numerical but mixed feelings about the pillars-7,7,6,1 lmao. 1 being applied intellect 💀Never scored so low for empathy/collaboration in other tests so feeling like I’ve bombed this one 😭 On the plus side, the scores are much better compared to the Reed Smith one I did a few weeks back… feeling argh!

If Paul from Paul, Weiss is watching from a distance.. I promise you I’m very friendly, collaborative and have a heart!! 😂😭
 

yoyo33

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Just did the PW SJT:

Top for verbal, middle for numerical but mixed feelings about the pillars-7,7,6,1 lmao. 1 being applied intellect 💀Never scored so low for empathy/collaboration in other tests so feeling like I’ve bombed this one 😭 On the plus side, the scores are much better compared to the Reed Smith one I did a few weeks back… feeling argh!

If Paul from Paul, Weiss is watching from a distance.. I promise you I’m very friendly, collaborative and have a heart!! 😂😭
was there a set of VI questions at the end? I have been seeing online that amberjack has that as a component of the exam
 
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Chris Brown

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Just did the PW SJT:

Top for verbal, middle for numerical but mixed feelings about the pillars-7,7,6,1 lmao. 1 being applied intellect 💀Never scored so low for empathy/collaboration in other tests so feeling like I’ve bombed this one 😭 On the plus side, the scores are much better compared to the Reed Smith one I did a few weeks back… feeling argh!

If Paul from Paul, Weiss is watching from a distance.. I promise you I’m very friendly, collaborative and have a heart!! 😂😭
Is it scored from 1-10? I’m rly nervous to start the test I keep procrastinating lmao. 🤣

I need to do it tomorrow and then mentally prepare for the immediate PFO. 💀
 

lawstudent2

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My top tip would be to focus on doing well and not on being perfect. Many people go to ACs thinking they need to blow away the partners and the recruiters to succeed, but I think this is the wrong attitude to have. First of all, while your achievements and skills might be impressive for this stage, it is quite unlikely you will manage to overly impress anyone no matter how hard you try - you will know a lot less about any given commercial law subject than lawyer in the firm. Secondly, this attitude will make you feel even more stressed than you would normally be and will therefore likely impact your performance. If you will be assessed for a total time of a few hours, it is impossible to be perfect in every moment. When you notice an imperfection in an answer, the right reaction is to acknowledge it but then to move past it and make the best of the rest. Instead, the overly perfectionistic candidates tend to stress about it a lot more than they should, and in attempting to fix the initial mistake they do a lot more harm to their progression chances. People with this mindset thus often end up creating negative feedback loops for themselves: they make a small error, then they begin overthinking it, which decreases their self-confidence, which impacts their next answer, which in turn further intensifies their anxiety; a series of events which can end up completely derailing one's performance.

To avoid this, instead of aiming to excel everywhere, I would simply aim to perform well - to do a good job on every task and score well on every relevant assessment criterion. This boils down to using your preparation to make decent substantive points and communicate them in a clear and confident manner. If you manage to do this you will have performed better than the majority of candidates and in most cases should be enough to get you progressed - it did for me 4/4 times. If you reframe your task in this way, I think you should feel a lot less anxious about it: while perhaps it is difficult to convince yourself that you will pull of an extraordinary performance, you should feel a lot more confident in being able to respond sensibly to tasks and to cover all your bases well.

A final piece of advice I have for calming down on the day and to avoid blanking out is to take your time:
  1. Firstly, taking your time before starting your answer. Instead of just jumping into a response the instance the interviewer stops speaking (which is a very natural temptation) take 3-4 seconds to think about and structure your answer. This will significantly decrease the number of times you find yourself blanking out mid-answer or having difficulty finding the right way to end a sentence.
  2. Secondly, if you have difficulty with finding sensible points for a question, it is perfectly acceptable to request some thinking time - just say 'May I please take a minute to consider my answer?'. In the unlikely case you do not find anything after that, explain that you are unsure what to say; but also walk the interviewer through your thought process of your best guess.
  3. Thirdly, aim to speak more slowly. When you are anxious, your hear rate goes up and you naturally start speaking at a higher pace, which is problematic in that this simply means taking less time to think as you answer. This naturally reduces how articulate and confident you seem, especially since speaking quickly more often leads you to losing your chain of thought or expressing yourself in unclear language. As such, try to slow down. Also, use strategic 2-3 second pauses in your speech to add emphasis to points and to get valuable thinking time as you are moving between the different parts of your answer.
Finally, know that just by getting to the AC you have proven yourself to be one of the very best candidates out of a huge pool, which means you have all it takes to succeed! Best of luck :)!
That's really helpful thank you so much :)
 

Chris Brown

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Does anybody else compulsively check their emails a day after submitting an application, expecting to hear back🤣
This is literally me after reading about people hearing from paul weiss🤣
I literally was doing the exact same thing when people were hearing back from Paul, Weiss.

When I checked my emails for the 10048404500060th time that day and saw I actually got sent a test invite I was like 😮😦 wtf it’s actually there fr. 😂😂
 

Jessica Booker

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This may have been asked already but... I have an in-person AC interview coming up and I believe that there will be (at a minimum) two fee-earners interviewing me. When one of them asks me a question, and I have to respond, should I look at both interviewers back-and-forth when responding? Or should I only focus on the person that’s asked me?

Alternatively, does it depend on the question/who is writing notes on my answers lol💀

@Jessica Booker @Amma Usman
You should ensure you are getting eye contact with both interviewers - it does not matter who is taking notes.
 

Jessica Booker

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@Jessica Booker Hi Jessica, I submitted my application and interview experiences in the middle of the week, and I assume the forms were not closed as I was able to complete them. The email said the gift cards would be issued by 31 Jan - if I didn't get them, does that mean what I submitted was not valid?
You should email [email protected] with this query and someone from the team will be able to follow up on this.
 

jta227

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As part of an AC, I've been asked to put together a 10 minute presentation on a current social, political or economic issue currently impacting the UK economy and how that issue impacts commercial law firms (picking out specific sectors affected, what opportunities/challenges there are for law firms in relation to the issue, how it will impact clients etc).

Does anyone have any advice on how to go about picking a topic/issue to present on? Very aware that 10 minutes isn't actually a lot of time to go into much depth on anything so not sure how to go about picking a topic that's not too narrow!

I’d try something unlikely to be picked by several people that would make me stand out positively (but is still a good point), and if there are time for questions after then also try not to pick something super niche and relevant to your assessor’s practice area unless you are super confident and can withstand a grilling on the topic (was advice from NRF open day, if you don’t know your assessors then ignore the 2nd point)
 
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