TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Jessica Booker

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For the Orrick app, does anyone have any tips, specifically how to approach the cover letter, at the moment I am focusing this on myself as there is a why comm law and a why Orrick question. Open to any ideas/suggestions.

These are the questions I am referring to:
1. Please paste your covering letter here 500 words
2. Why have you decided to pursue a career as a commercial lawyer working in an international law firm? What factors and influences have affected your decision 250 words
3. Why specifically are you interested in training at Orrick? What makes us different to the other firms you have applied for? 250 words
Your cover letter should cover “why you” and I would also include anything about the firm that isnt related to training - eg more of the cultural aspects of the firm that you align with/are interested in.
 

OliverTwist

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guys how do you stop yourselves from checking email every 10 minutes. I got used to getting lots of responses from firms in december and now I'm getting withdrawal symptoms.
Set up an email specifically and only for job applications and turn on push notifications on your phone. This way you only have job updates coming through the notis.
 

Ram Sabaratnam

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does anyone have any idea how to structure an answer to the question "what are xyz's competitors?" in an interview?

Hiya @AnAnonymousDuck

It can be tricky to answer these at interview, but I typically tried to take the following approach:

  1. Acknowledge how you are defining competition: I always tried to pre-empt what I was saying by acknowledging that competition can be defined or measured in different ways. A firm's competitors could be defined by a range of factors, including practice area strengths, sectoral capabilities, international reach, client base, or their firm structure (e.g. traditional partnership vs swiss verein). Stating this upfront shows your interviewer that you’re aware of the different angles the answer could be taken.
  2. Name a few (2-3): After setting out the above parameters briefly, I'd then say "taking this all into account, I think firms X, Y, and Z really stand out as key competitors to the firm."
  3. Make it relevant: I'd then try to explain why these firms are competitors specifically to the one you’re interviewing for. Again you can make reference to the factors you initially set out/mention in step 1 of making this answer.
If you're also asked how the firm you're interviewing at stands out, then I'd include a fourth part to your answer: wrap up by highlighting what makes the firm you’re interviewing with different or better than the firms you mentioned. Maybe it’s their niche expertise within certain practice area, or just a stronger reputation in an area that matters to you. Overall, I'd recommend just being as structured as possible, leading your interviewer through your reasoning.

Hope this helps! Good luck with any upcoming interviews!
 

Ram Sabaratnam

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For the Orrick app, does anyone have any tips, specifically how to approach the cover letter, at the moment I am focusing this on myself as there is a why comm law and a why Orrick question. Open to any ideas/suggestions.

These are the questions I am referring to:
1. Please paste your covering letter here 500 words
2. Why have you decided to pursue a career as a commercial lawyer working in an international law firm? What factors and influences have affected your decision 250 words
3. Why specifically are you interested in training at Orrick? What makes us different to the other firms you have applied for? 250 words

Hiya @OliverTwist

Completely agree with @Jessica Booker here, and this is basically the approach I adopted when applying to Orrick. I tried to use the cover letter to discuss/address “why me” and use examples/points that didn't fit neatly into my "why Orrick"/ "why commercial law" answers. As Jess mentioned, the cover letter is a great place to highlight what interests you about Orrick’s culture or any experiences you might have had meeting people at the firm.

To avoid overlapping with the “why Orrick” question, I tried to focus my answer to that question on the firm's practice area strengths and sectoral expertise. Orrick's quite unusual combination of not only tech expertise, but also energy and finance expertise made it stand out to me compared to other firms that I'd applied to, including Cooley and Vinson & Elkins. They'd also worked on really interesting EC/VC matters that allowed me to distinguish them from the other US-headquartered firms in London whose client bases typically encompass key private equity firms and their portfolio companies.

By dedicating the cover letter to address why you and what it is about the culture/training at the firm that interests you, I think you can avoid repetition when answering the "why Orrick" question. You'll also be using the “why Orrick” question to focus directly on specific areas where the firm excels, like their strengths in technology, energy, or venture capital, etc.

Hope this helps and good luck with the application!
 

isabelle888

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Does anyone have any insight into Burges Salmon AC? First AC so anything is helpful!
I did a Burges Salmon AC a while back and i was SO underprepared (my first AC), not sure if its the same but you had to do watson glaser, interview, written task, and group case study all within one day, its pretty long:
- in my opinion - it felt like they placed the most importance on the interview then the group case study.
The interview goes on for an hour so make it conversational and as enjoyable as you can, they aren't trying to catch you out, if anything they are gonna ask questions to try and best let you pass, expect the normal questions (why firm, etc) and if you say something genuinely interesting (like a niche hobby or interest) they will prob ask more questions about it, so just sell yourself and your knowledge on the firm.
 

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