TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[Gday33]

Would you say the test is quite similar to other SJ and verbal reasoning tests you have done?

Yes all fairly standard

 

[medy]

Hiya, does anyone know what is the deadline to completing an Amberjack assessment for A&O Shearman? Do i need to do it immediately after receiving it?

 

[Deleted member 37508]

MB feedback report received today (applied VS 17/09, test received 29/10, taken 01/11)
- strengths: initiative, social adaptability, work ethic
- Verbal: dexterity (average), comprehension (above), adaptability (above), reasoning (average), interpretation (above)

Will this cycle be my lucky one? 🤞🏻🤞🏻

That’s a great report wow! Routing for you.

 

[studenttolawyer]

Has anyone received the Watson Glaser from Hogan Lovells Lift Off scheme? How long did it take for them to send it?

 

[cjwx]

Does Mayer Brown accept VS applications on rolling basis?

 

[bibss]

Simmons & Simmons PFO

 

[VMS]

Would you say the test is quite similar to other SJ and verbal reasoning tests you have done?

It's pretty different. The practice test they provide on the email will give you more insight

 

[LawyerUpPal]

Anyone who applied to HL summer vac scheme receive a WG? I applied 22/10 and also emailed them no response..

So......you submitted your application for a SUMMER SCHEME on 22/10 and emailed less than two weeks later to ask where your WG is? 😂😂😂 Does that seem reasonable and rational to you? Some firms do not automatically send assessments. They review the application before sending it; HL is a firm that does this, and with 2-3 people reviewing hundreds of applications, it may take longer than a week. Moroever, they are still presumably working on WVS applications. Please, guys, get in the habit of talking yourselves down in your head. It's easy to get anxious about the process, but you cannot let that get the best of you. It demonstrates emotional immaturity and lack of self-control when you react without patience and thought, and you end up doing more harm to your chances than good, not because you are not a worthy candidate (which I'm sure you are) but because your actions are annoying and inconsiderate to people working incredibly hard to get through applications. Remember you are not just being assessed at ACs; interactions with grad recruitment, who are the gatekeepers of the process, matter most of all.

 

[l789]

So......you submitted your application for a SUMMER SCHEME on 22/10 and emailed less than two weeks later to ask where your WG is? 😂😂😂 Does that seem reasonable and rational to you? Some firms do not automatically send assessments. They review the application before sending it; HL is a firm that does this, and with 2-3 people reviewing hundreds of applications, it may take longer than a week. Moroever, they are still presumably working on WVS applications. Please, guys, get in the habit of talking yourselves down in your head. It's easy to get anxious about the process, but you cannot let that get the best of you. It demonstrates emotional immaturity and lack of self-control when you react without patience and thought, and you end up doing more harm to your chances than good, not because you are not a worthy candidate (which I'm sure you are) but because your actions are annoying and inconsiderate to people working incredibly hard to get through applications. Remember you are not just being assessed at ACs; interactions with grad recruitment, who are the gatekeepers of the process, matter most of all.

I agree with your point on keeping calm and not going crazy with sending emails.

However, I thought HL sent the WG in due course and then if you pass this, they read your application.

 

[legally.brown]

So......you submitted your application for a SUMMER SCHEME on 22/10 and emailed less than two weeks later to ask where your WG is? 😂😂😂 Does that seem reasonable and rational to you? Some firms do not automatically send assessments. They review the application before sending it; HL is a firm that does this, and with 2-3 people reviewing hundreds of applications, it may take longer than a week. Moroever, they are still presumably working on WVS applications. Please, guys, get in the habit of talking yourselves down in your head. It's easy to get anxious about the process, but you cannot let that get the best of you. It demonstrates emotional immaturity and lack of self-control when you react without patience and thought, and you end up doing more harm to your chances than good, not because you are not a worthy candidate (which I'm sure you are) but because your actions are annoying and inconsiderate to people working incredibly hard to get through applications. Remember you are not just being assessed at ACs; interactions with grad recruitment, who are the gatekeepers of the process, matter most of all.

It was a normal question I had cuz last year they never sent me the WG and my efforts went to waste

I followed up once and I came here to understand if anyone is going through the same thing. I understand your point but this is a forum to help and support

 

[LawyerUpPal]

I agree with your point on keeping calm and not going crazy with sending emails.

However, I thought HL sent the WG in due course and then if you pass this, they read your application.

Some sites, like the lawyer portal, say within 48 hours; however, I attended an open day there last week and asked Jasmine Uppal this specific question. She mentioned that they do not send WG until they read your application, and they review apps on a rolling basis.

 

[legally.brown]

Some sites, like the lawyer portal, say within 48 hours; however, I attended an open day there last week and asked Jasmine Uppal this specific question. She mentioned that they do not send WG until they read your application, and they review apps on a rolling basis.

Apologies I did not know it’s the next stage I always assumed it was automatic at least last year it was.

 

[Deleted member 37508]

So......you submitted your application for a SUMMER SCHEME on 22/10 and emailed less than two weeks later to ask where your WG is? 😂😂😂 Does that seem reasonable and rational to you? Some firms do not automatically send assessments. They review the application before sending it; HL is a firm that does this, and with 2-3 people reviewing hundreds of applications, it may take longer than a week. Moroever, they are still presumably working on WVS applications. Please, guys, get in the habit of talking yourselves down in your head. It's easy to get anxious about the process, but you cannot let that get the best of you. It demonstrates emotional immaturity and lack of self-control when you react without patience and thought, and you end up doing more harm to your chances than good, not because you are not a worthy candidate (which I'm sure you are) but because your actions are annoying and inconsiderate to people working incredibly hard to get through applications. Remember you are not just being assessed at ACs; interactions with grad recruitment, who are the gatekeepers of the process, matter most of all.

This was such a dramatic response. Just say they probably do not review summer applications this early on and not to worry. Everyone is learning how the process goes.

 

[Bread]

Some sites, like the lawyer portal, say within 48 hours; however, I attended an open day there last week and asked Jasmine Uppal this specific question. She mentioned that they do not send WG until they read your application, and they review apps on a rolling basis.

If applications are reviewed on a rolling basis it isn’t unreasonable to think that sending an early application for a scheme (even if months in advance) means that there will be a quicker turnaround for responses. I understand what you mean but your answer came off as pretty disrespectful and there’s really no need for that on here

 

[Amma Usman]

Can anyone kindly provide advice on how to approach the following question for Freshfields’ Graduate Workshop application:

“In no more than 400 words, tell us all about who you are. As part of your personal statement, you should demonstrate that you have the potential to be a great trainee. We also want to know why you want to work at Freshfields and what excites you about a career in commercial law. You may wish to mention any positions of responsibility held in university, as well as work experience or employment, achievements, interests, and personal qualities you think are relevant.”

Hey @studentdelaw786

I’ve adapted the response with more detail to reflect key points applicable to an application for the firm’s TC. The key elements would also be applicable to an open day application.

I would also note: For open day applications, show more of what you will gain, rather than what you already know.

To start, it's essential to remember that the 400-word limit may seem restrictive, but it's more than enough if you focus tightly on the key points Freshfields is seeking. Breaking down the question is critical: it’s asking who you are, why you want a career in commercial law, why you want Freshfields specifically, and what makes you a strong candidate for their training programme.


1. Showcase Your Potential as a Trainee:

Begin by focusing on the line, “show us you have the potential to be a great trainee.” This is your chance to demonstrate the skills Freshfields values, such as initiative, academic rigour, and strong communication abilities. For example, you might mention any experiences where you’ve shown proactive problem-solving, whether in academic settings or work environments. Also consider highlighting organisational skills, time management, and attention to detail, as these are crucial for navigating a trainee’s diverse workload. Show how these skills will allow you to thrive in a fast-paced commercial law environment.

2. Articulate Your Interest in Commercial Law:

Next, express concisely why commercial law excites you. Think about how you can differentiate this from general statements; be specific about what draws you to the business world. Perhaps you’ve had exposure to commercial law through a university module, work experience, or even personal research into deals or case studies. Use one or two vivid examples that genuinely resonate with you. A strong opening line, such as, “I am drawn to a career in commercial law because…” can help to signpost and keep the narrative clear.


3. Explain Why Freshfields Specifically:

When answering "Why Freshfields," focus on what sets the firm apart in your eyes. For example, Freshfields’ eight-seat training structure offers broad exposure across different practice areas. Highlight why this appeals to you, such as the opportunity to gain a well-rounded perspective on commercial law before deciding on a specialisation. Then, link this preference to a relevant experience that reflects your adaptability or enthusiasm for diverse learning opportunities. If you’re interested in their private equity practice, research a standout deal they led; this can demonstrate both motivation and diligence. This section is about going beyond general praise—connect your reasons to specific aspects of Freshfields that align with your goals and experiences.


4. Present Relevant Experiences and Achievements:

Finally, include a concise summary of relevant experiences. Positions of responsibility, part-time work, internships, or volunteer roles—particularly those that required leadership, collaboration, or resilience—show your capacity to adapt and take on challenges. Briefly mention achievements, whether academic awards or extracurricular accomplishments, that showcase qualities Freshfields seeks in trainees. If possible, connect these experiences back to the skills you've discussed, reinforcing that you’re well-prepared for a career in commercial law at a leading firm.

Structuring Your Answer:


1. Introduction to why commercial law excites you.

2. Why Freshfields stands out to you among other firms.

3. Key skills and personal qualities relevant to becoming a great trainee.

4. Briefly highlight positions of responsibility, achievements, or work experience that showcase your strengths.


I believe this approach balances each part of the question and highlights what makes you a compelling candidate.

Hope this helps! 🚀

 

[Shandy101]

I could care less who thought my response was mean. Your subjective views are immaterial. I could just stay quiet and let people shoot themselves in the foot. Instead of focusing on the delivery, focus on the message and stop being a victim. It will help you a lot in the end.

100% accurate what you said, and it was pretty self-evident as well. I can see from your messages that you already have a WVS at W&C and ACs at HL and HSF. Just leave these professional victims and focus on yourself, and they will hopefully eventually get it after five cycles in this forum.

 

[Gday33]

I could care less who thought my response was mean. Your subjective views are immaterial. I could just stay quiet and let people shoot themselves in the foot. Instead of focusing on the delivery, focus on the message and stop being a victim. It will help you a lot in the end.

*couldn’t care less

Also, your poor attitude towards others (strangers no less!) will shoot you in the foot a hundred times more than an email to grad recruitment will.

 

[Bread]

I could care less who thought my response was mean. Your subjective views are immaterial. I could just stay quiet and let people shoot themselves in the foot. Instead of focusing on the delivery, focus on the message and stop being a victim. It will help you a lot in the end.

Bro just be nice tf 😂

 

[Shandy101]

*couldn’t care less

Also, your poor attitude towards others (strangers no less!) will shoot you in the foot a hundred times more than an email to grad recruitment will.

They are both acceptable uses of the phrase actually. Americans say could care less while Brits say couldn't......See: https://www.britannica.com/dictiona...could care less,in formal or academic writing.

 

[Amma Usman]

Does anyone know Mayer brown values/what they look for in trainees. The website is awful in terms of information.

Hey @IneedaTCASAP

I have found an excerpt from a past interview discussion with a trainee at the firm. You will be able to pick up some values from the discussion.

I have linked the article here: https://targetjobs.co.uk/careers-advice/law/life-trainee-solicitor-insider-view