TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

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What questions should I ask the partner at the end of a case study/scenario based interview?

 

[TheInevitableTCholder2024/25🙏]

Should I assume a PFO for sidley as I still haven't heard back lol

I think so man lol; same here btw

 

[TC Chaser]

Hi all, I made it to the Q/finals of the commercial awareness competition. I'd be grateful to get any tips from anyone who's participated before, to get a broad feel of what to expect.

 

[emma.d]

Anyone attending the Shoosmiths Virtual Insight Evening this Tuesday? Is it a camera on situation?

 

[Tintin06]

Hi @Andrei Radu and @Ram Sabaratnam

I trust you are well.

I work full-time, I cannot possibly attend open days and I am struggling to understand the firm's competitive edge.

Firms seem to be very similar when it comes to their practice areas, specifically their transactional expertise.
How do you distinguish the M&A practice of one firm from another? A lot of firms seem to work on similar deals and with similar clients and I am struggling. Is there a specific element that I need to focus on?
Thank you in advance.

LinkedIn is your friend - DM trainees.

 

[AS24]

LinkedIn is your friend - DM trainees.

I tried! I only sent around 12 messages this week but received no response. Trainees and associates are busy, so I understand!

 

[tarty23]

are you meant to also mention relevant skills under experience, or just what you did at various roles?

 

[legalxp2]

Does anyone know whether, since Latham are non-rolling, the SJT be sent after the deadline?

 

[Kodak123]

Anyone done the w&c VI and got tips

 

[yasmars]

are you meant to also mention relevant skills under experience, or just what you did at various roles?

Usually I like to draw on the skills I’ve gained under the experience especially if they’re similar to what’s required for a trainee solicitor

 

[Andrei Radu]

Hi Andrei, this is very helpful. Regarding your further research on Davis Polk, what resources did you use?

Hi @BonanzaBih_! So beyond the usual general google browse, firm websites and firm LinkedIn pages, Chambers (UK, US, and Global) and Legal 500 research, I mainly used legal press resources. Essentially, I would go through each available legal press resource and type in the name of the relevant firm in the search bar. I would then go browse and skim through articles written in the last few years about it. The Lawyer was particularly useful as it very UK-centric, but Law.com, Bloomberg law and Vault can also be very good, especially for US firms. Unfortunately, these are only available on a subscription basis, but this may be available to you through university details. Beyond that, The Global Legal Post and Legal Business are also sometimes useful, especially since they have more freely accessible content.

 

[chark]

Does anyone know whether a cover letter is needed for Taylor Wessing's vac scheme app? The application portal says it is needed (skills + why you have applied for the scheme) while someone here says they don't look at it. The cover letter content seems to overlap with the motivational question on the form itself as well.

 

[m12]

Is anyone still waiting to hear back post arctic shores for NRF?

 

[Amma Usman]

Does anyone have any insight on whether to apply to the Bird & Bird Vacation Scheme or 25/26 TC? I'm a recent LLB graduate and would be able to complete the SQE in time for the TC start dates in either 2025 or 2026, but I don't have VS experience, so not sure whether it would be more advantageous still to apply to VS instead of the direct TC?

Thanks for your question @ghostyb

There are a number of angles to look at this from.

First, you would need to look at the firm‘s policies, to judge whether they recruit mainly from vacation schemes/direct TCs. @Ram Sabaratnam has made a very helpful post on this, which I have linked HERE. This would help determine whether a VS application would be the preferred approach. There is no point in applying for a direct TC when majority of candidates are recruited from a firm’s VS’.

You are also right in suggesting that some firms recruit candidates for direct TCs when they have more VS, or other legal work experience. This is not to say, however, that one wouldn’t be successful with a direct TC approach. I know a number of people who have succeeded this way.

 

[icebear]

A question in Michelmores' VS application is confusing me. It asks, "What do you think are the biggest challenges facing Michelmores clients at the moment?" but they work with clients in different sectors who all have different niche challenges, so should I pick up 1-2 sectors that I'm interested in and talk about their challenges or go more general and mention things like cyber security, ESG etc?

 

[Amma Usman]

I am trying to book my ac slot but theres only one slot left next tuesday. do i have to book it or should i wait maybe more slots will open? How does the booking process work?

Hey @Giorgos , I’d recommend booking if you are available for the Tuesday slot. However, if you are not available, then feel free to email graduate recruitment with an update on the scheduling issues and they’ll be able to find a work around that.

 

[Amma Usman]

if you go to a Latham open day, do you have to do the sjt and vi again when you apply for. a vac scheme after?

Hey @far , no need to take the test a second time

 

[Amma Usman]

Just got a Paul, Weiss open day invite

Well done on securing the open day @legal18 . Wishing you an amazing time, and make the most of it

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi there! I'm applying for a host of vac schemes, open days, training contracts etc as a non-law grad starting my conversion in January. I did a small vac scheme for a boutique firm over summer and I don't know whether its better to apply straight for training contracts or to vac schemes? Any advice would be amazing, thanks!!

Hey @LawLawLawLawLaw . As you already have some VS experience, I would say either approach is fine, but VS applications should be prioritized. You would need to look at the firm’s policy though, to see whether candidates are recruited from primarily VS’, or whether there’s evenly spread out recruitment from VS’ and TCs. @Ram Sabaratnam has made a thread on this, HERE. If applying for direct TCs, you would, however, need to strongly highlight the skills and tasks you carried out during your VS from last summer, as often times direct TC applicants will need to show strong legal work experience. This is why I strongly agree with @Andrei Radu ‘s point in that one should still apply for mostly vacation schemes.

 

[Amma Usman]

For VSs recruited on a rolling basis, when is realistically 'too late' before the final deadline for applications to be worth sending off?

Thinking about applying to Dechert WVS today (deadline 25th oct, rolling) but if its already a futile effort then I'll save it for spring.

Thanks

Hi @Crazy_f00 , some recruiters tend to say 2 weeks prior to the closing date is a safe mark. @Jessica Booker will have more thoughts on this.