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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

billyonthespeeddial

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Anything from Ropes & Gray or Travers Smith today anyone?
Ok so this is borderline a conspiracy theory but I looked at last year's thread and Travers sent all pfo's on a single day in March. Maybe they just had that pfo day earlier this time and those of us still here are getting interviews? At the same time though, back then, no one got interviews after the pfo day, at least not on the forum (so it was kinda like the Ashurst pfo day, where the pfos were sent to anyone remaining)
 
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Ok so this is borderline a conspiracy theory but I looked at last year's thread and Travers sent all pfo's on a single day in March. Maybe they just had that pfo day earlier this time and those of us still here are getting interviews? At the same time though, back then, no one got interviews after the pfo day, at least not on the forum (so it was kinda like the Ashurst pfo day, where the pfos were sent to anyone remaining)
This is probably the likely scenario. It might be they have finished sending out interview invites for the time being and now will start sending out PFO’s to mostly everyone remaining. They could have a number of ‘reserve’ candidates that they can offer interviews to if those doing interviews at the moment get PFO’d after it or if successful people decline their SVS offer. 🥲

In my PFO email, they kind of alluded to how they were unable to offer me an interview slot but that they were really impressed by my application and that I should re-apply?? Idk how those two things can be true at the same time lmao. I assumed it meant all interviews had been sent out, especially because they only interview 5-10% of applicants. If they get 1,500 applications, 75-150 get interviews and the remaining 1,350 to 1,425 get PFO post application. 🥲​
 

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This is probably the likely scenario. It might be they have finished sending out interview invites for the time being and now will start sending out PFO’s to mostly everyone remaining. They could have a number of ‘reserve’ candidates that they can offer interviews to if those doing interviews at the moment get PFO’d after it or if successful people decline their SVS offer. 🥲

In my PFO email, they kind of alluded to how they were unable to offer me an interview slot but that they were really impressed by my application and that I should re-apply?? Idk how those two things can be true at the same time lmao. I assumed it meant all interviews had been sent out, especially because they only interview 5-10% of applicants. If they get 1,500 applications, 75-150 get interviews and the remaining 1,350 to 1,425 get PFO post application. 🥲​
Possibly. I think there’s too many waiting to hear back to be reserve (same for R&G) but maybe that’s just me hoping. I’m hoping more interview offers (and maybe PFOs too) are due to come out.
 
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This is probably the likely scenario. It might be they have finished sending out interview invites for the time being and now will start sending out PFO’s to mostly everyone remaining. They could have a number of ‘reserve’ candidates that they can offer interviews to if those doing interviews at the moment get PFO’d after it or if successful people decline their SVS offer. 🥲
This isn't what I meant though. If this was the case, why didn't everyone get pfos together, like last year? Reserve list potentially but I don't think it's possible that they interviewed that many people yet? That'd be really quick. I think and hope another batch of interview invites is coming soon
 
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Possibly. I think there’s too many waiting to hear back to be reserve (same for R&G) but maybe that’s just me hoping. I’m hoping more interview offers (and maybe PFOs too) are due to come out.
Hmm I don't know how many are waiting tbf. I've seen three including me on the forum so far but obvs not everyone's gonna post.

Can everyone who's waiting for Travers give this post a like?
 

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Maybe a question for @Jessica Booker, but let’s say you’re waiting to hear back from a law firm, and you know they’ve both sent out a substantial number of rejections but also interviews/ACs, is it worth emailing them at all to simply express that you’re still really keen and interested in the firm? This is assuming you may be on a waitlist…
 

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Maybe a question for @Jessica Booker, but let’s say you’re waiting to hear back from a law firm, and you know they’ve both sent out a substantial number of rejections but also interviews/ACs, is it worth emailing them at all to simply express that you’re still really keen and interested in the firm? This is assuming you may be on a waitlist…
You can (and enough people do) but I don’t think this would change anything in relation to a decision or even when a decision may be made.
 

Chris Brown

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This isn't what I meant though. If this was the case, why didn't everyone get pfos together, like last year? Reserve list potentially but I don't think it's possible that they interviewed that many people yet? That'd be really quick. I think and hope another batch of interview invites is coming soon
Perhaps they received a lot more applications this year compared to last year and so are sending out PFO’s in a staggered way? We don’t know if people received PFO before or after the March date on last year’s thread, but simply chose not to say anything. 🤷🏾‍♂️

The interviews are virtual and there are at least 5 graduate recruitment partners at Travers. If (hypothetically) they each do 2-3 interviews a day, that’s between 10-15 interviews per day and 50-75 a week. I don’t think they do it in this way but then again, maybe the partners are dedicated. 😂

They started handing out their interview invites around mid Feb (12-15th), so by now may have sent around 100-150 invites. They usually schedule their interviews to be 1-2 days after the invite, so it is possible they’ve finished sending out their interviews and now will send out PFO to everyone else. 🥲

I think the most likely case is that they have sent out all the “absolutely not you guys immediate PFO!” type PFO’s for the time being. The rest of you guys waiting are probably in the “hmm idk about these guys we need to look at their applications again” group, which could lead to further interviews or PFO. 🙂​
 
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Hiya @gazdgazd11


I'm sure that @Amma Usman and @Andrei Radu would have more to add here, but just wanted to get my thoughts to you. This question is essentially about demonstrating commercial awareness and understanding how law firms make strategic business decisions. A good answer will depend on the specific firm you're applying to, as different firms have different international strategies. A strong response should first acknowledge the firm’s existing footprint before making a well-reasoned case for a new location.

I think your suggestion regarding Saudi Arabia makes good sense. There's also been plenty of commentary on why law firm expansion into Saudi Arabia is strategically beneficial. This article sets out various reasons for why Saudi Arabia has become particularly attractive to firms in recent years. Apart from economic growth in the region, it mentions other factors, including:
  1. Regulatory Reforms: The article mentions that, in 2024, Saudi Arabia introduced legislation facilitating the entry of international law firms. This essentially simplified the process for firms looking to establish a presence in the country.

  2. Economic Diversification: The article mentions Saudi Arabia's Vision 2030 plan, which aims to reduce dependence on oil by investing in sectors like technology, tourism, and infrastructure. This diversification creates a demand for legal services across various industries.

  3. Increased Deal Activity: The economic reforms have led to a surge in mergers, acquisitions, and public-private partnerships, providing ample opportunities for law firms to offer their expertise.

  4. Strategic Location: Many articles on law firms' entry into Saudi Arabia constantly highlight the strategic role such moves play in allowing firms to access the Middle East and North Africa more broadly.
If you decide to change your answer and choose another country/region, I'd encourage you to keep a few things in mind:
  • Competition: If the legal market is already saturated, breaking in might be difficult. For instance, when speaking to partners about this question during interviews, I've been told that they find it amusing when candidates say that they should open shop in Brussels and that's partly because Brussels is already a highly saturated legal landscape.

  • Sectoral Strengths: Similarly, you should also approach the question by thinking of the firm’s key sectors. A firm with a strong presence in financial services may prioritise major financial hubs, while one focused on energy or infrastructure might look to emerging markets with significant investment in these sectors.

  • Regulatory Environment: Some countries restrict foreign law firms from practising local law, which could limit the firm’s ability to operate effectively.
Overall, I think if your answer shows that you've considered a range of factors and tied this to some research about the firm, you should be fine. Best of luck with the application!
As always - thank you so much! Your help is invaluable!
 

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