TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[CG_101]

Is it ok if we use abbreviations for firms while writing cover letters or answers to questions... For instance, is it ok if we say "White & Case" once and then the subsequent ones employ the abbreviation "W&C", or do they mind?

Other examples, HL for Hogan Lovells, S&C for Sullivan & Cromwell, L&W for Latham & Watkins, etc..

I used S&C for Sullivan and Cromwell and got waitlisted so I assume its not an issue

 

[g.cl.2020344]

12.31

As in 3 days ago! That’s a quick progression!

 

[legalxp2]

Does anyone know whether the Akin test is automatic? Can't seem to find anything online

 

[Andrei Radu]

What are some good questions to ask at the end of an interview? I would appreciate any advice!

@Andrei Radu @Jessica Booker @Amma Usman @Ram Sabaratnam

Hey @hfbjsdhfbhf to add to the great response from @Jessica Booker in my case I have generally found it best to ask questions around the unique selling points on which I had based my 'why this firm' reasoning. I quoted bellow a post I wrote in which I explored this issue in more depth:

I would say what is best to ask depends on (i) what your interests are; (ii) who is interviewing you; and (iii) what has previously been discussed in the interview:

1. Firstly, you want to ask something that you actually care about. Whoever is interviewing you likely has significant experience with the process and will therefore be able to see whether you are being genuine or just asking a question for the sake of it. Thus, when you think of a potential question, first ask yourself why do you think the answer might matter to you. In fact, I think it would be good if in the interview you mention the reason why you care about the question before you actually ask it - this will directly show the interview that you have put thought into it. An example of questions that you may choose to ask could be questions relating to your 'Why the firm' motivations. For instance, if a a strong reputation in one practice area, you may ask: how has the firm managed to build such a strong practice? what are plans for the future of the practice? are there any relevant challenges and opportunities in that practice's market, and how is the firm planning to respond to that? how can the firm's practice be differentiated from competitors with similar reputations? etc.
2. Secondly, you want to tailor your question to the audience as much as possible. Some questions may be more appropriate for an associate, some for a junior partner, and some for a senior partner. For instance, questions relating to junior culture and training experience are great for associates, questions around progression and the different tasks and responsibilities at different seniority levels in the firm would be great for a junior partner, while questions about the firm's strategy, client base, and market reputation when compared to competitors would be great for the more senior partners. Moreover, you may not want to ask a disputes partner about the firm's strategy to increase market share in PE, and you may want to avoid asking a transactional partner about details of the firm's newest competition litigation mandate. If possible, tailoring your questions around your interviewer's expertise is optimal.
3. Thirdly, you want for your questions to feel natural - you don't want to seem like you came in with a pre-prepared list which you were going to ask regardless of how the interview went. Of course, it is good to show that you have done your research and came prepared. However, you also want to make this section of the interview feel as conversational as possible, as for once you are playing the role of the person doing the asking. The more you can link your questions with what has been touched upon in the interview, the better. Some questions could just be follow-ups to the interviewer's answers to your pre-prepared questions. Some could be just about asking the interviewer to elaborate on some points they touched upon beforehand. However, take care to not be repetitive. Thus, only ask a question if you think it is likely there is a lot more that the interviewer could have to add to the previous discussion.

 

[yasmars]

Does anyone know whether the Akin test is automatic? Can't seem to find anything online

It’s not automatic

 

[jacksollaf]

It’s not automatic

did anyone receive a test? I applied on the 15th of October and still haven't heard back since the confirmation email...

 

[jacksollaf]

Does anyone know whether the Akin test is automatic? Can't seem to find anything online

did anyone receive a test? I applied on the 15th of October and still haven't heard back since the confirmation email...

 

[kokoprep]

Hi - has anyone received test for baker summer?

 

[yasmars]

did anyone receive a test? I applied on the 15th of October and still haven't heard back since the confirmation email...

Yes, some have

 

[AlegalA]

RPC WG! Don't know if it's automatic tho

 

[jacksollaf]

Hi - has anyone received test for baker summer?

Not on this thread I think; have you already??

 

[NJS]

Anyone else receive a Kirkland VI? or should I expect ANOTHER PFO

 

[SoonToBeTrainee]

Anyone on here apply to Kirkland for a direct TC and hear back yet?

Not sure if they’re only reviewing vac scheme applications atm or direct tc too

 

[dm_corporate]

Anyone else receive a Kirkland VI? or should I expect ANOTHER PFO

It has only been one working day since the deadline so you might not hear back until next week.

 

[NJS]

It has only been one working day since the deadline so you might not hear back until next week.

That is true, but I also thought they were rolling

 

[seaweed.bond]

RPC WG! Don't know if it's automatic tho

Well done!! I don’t think it’s automatic because their website says this about their application process ‘Timeline’: ‘Selected candidates invited to take the Watson Glaser psychometric test (practice test above)’.

Btw if you don’t mind me asking, when did you apply ?

 

[dm_corporate]

That is true, but I also thought they were rolling

No, they are not rolling. They send out VI's on a rolling basis but not AC invites. I asked this at the open day.

 

[dm_corporate]

Have they sent out all VI invites?

Highly unlikely since the majority of applications will have come in over the Christmas break. I believe around 200 get a VI - we should find out today or next week.

 

[OliverTwist]

Is anyone else having issues applying to Brown Rudnick. The link to VI Desktop has 'no vacancies available', but the TC window is open until end of Jan..?

 

[Jessica Booker]

Do firms always review applications in chronological order of receipt?

No - there can be various methods of how things are reviewed and often it can be quite random based on factors like people’s availability.