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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

C_AJH

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Nov 20, 2024
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Hi everyone,
does anyone know how long is ideal for the S & C cover letter? I'm at about 950 words which I can squeeze into one page at font nine but it feels too long. They don't have any guidance on their website but considering what other firms like S & M say, surely this is too long?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
 

Ram Sabaratnam

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Any advice on this question?

The legal industry is evolving rapidly with advancements in artificial intelligence, particularly in generative AI, which has the potential to revolutionise legal research, document drafting, and even client interactions. At Shoosmiths, we’ve been working with AI for years and know a thing or two about what responsible AI can do in the real world. We lead the conversation on innovation and use our expertise to help drive change where it matters. It’s why we don’t ban the use of AI in trainee solicitor application forms.

Effective communication and being detail oriented are essential skills for succeeding as a trainee at Shoosmiths, and an application form is the first opportunity you have to communicate as your authentic self. You may choose to use generative AI as a tool to assist you in developing your own original and thoughtful responses, but you should never simply copy and paste answers from the internet.




At Shoosmiths, we place a high value on originality of thought, creativity, and innovation. Successful applications will be personal; you’ll demonstrate genuine effort and unique perspectives, as well as giving the reader a true sense of why you are applying for the role. You’ll also show how your strengths will help shape the future of the firm.

We view the responsible use of AI as something that can strengthen your abilities, fostering creativity and refining ideas, rather than a shortcut to replace authentic input.

How do you expect to use generative AI tools to enhance your effectiveness as a solicitor in the future?

If you have, you may also choose to include specific examples of how you have utilised generative AI to elevate part of your application to Shoosmiths, in this answer.

Hiya @hanz123

To tackle this question effectively, I think it’s important to focus on concrete ways generative AI could enhance your effectiveness as a solicitor, rather than talking in broad terms (e.g. saying things like that it would make you “efficient” or “more productive”). The question also makes several prompts, including its emphasis on Shoosmiths' commitments to originality and personal insight, so your response might reflect thoughtful consideration of how AI might practically support your work in cultivating these skills/qualities.

To start, I'd encourage you to think about specific tasks where generative AI could play a transformative role. For example, rather than simply stating that AI can speed up document review, client onboarding, or drafting, you could emphasize how its ability to do these things will help free up time for you to focus on the more strategic aspects of being a good lawyer, e.g. allowing you to learn how to negotiate during transactions/cases, build client relationships, or develop comprehensive legal strategies.

You might also reflect on how generative AI could help you communicate more effectively, another skill that Shoosmiths' questions prompts you to consider. How do you think AI tools could, for instance, assist in drafting initial versions of client updates or memos by helping you organise complex legal concepts into clear, client-friendly language. Do you think generative AI could play an important role in helping lawyers break down barriers to communication, and what role do you think this might have for the way lawyers build relationships with clients, the matters they work on, and so forth?

If you’ve already used generative AI, this is a great opportunity to provide a specific examples since the question expressly invites you to do so. Perhaps you used AI to brainstorm ideas, or perhaps you utilised it to understand certain industries/sectors. I'd recommend using an example which shows how you thoughtfully adapted the AI-generated output to ensure it reflected not only your resourcefulness but also your ability to approach AI responsibly.

Finally, try to address the question’s forward-looking element by discussing how your use of generative AI might evolve over your career. For instance, as a trainee, you could see it supporting tasks like research or due diligence, but as you gain experience, you might rely on it for even more sophisticated roles, such as analysing legal trends to offer clients proactive advice or exploring creative solutions to novel legal challenges. By framing AI as a tool to elevate your work rather than replace your efforts, you’ll demonstrate that you understand how to integrate innovation into legal practice thoughtfully and responsibly. I'd recommend having a look at how some law firms are using 'technology incubators' as a way to apply and develop generative AI tools in the work they carry out and enhancing their firms' business development strategies.

Good luck and let us know if you have any other questions!
 
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Ram Sabaratnam

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Sep 7, 2024
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Hi everyone,
does anyone know how long is ideal for the S & C cover letter? I'm at about 950 words which I can squeeze into one page at font nine but it feels too long. They don't have any guidance on their website but considering what other firms like S & M say, surely this is too long?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Hiya @C_AJH

The requirements might have changed, but Kirsten Davies (Recruitment Manager at S&C) mentioned that candidates should write a concise letter that's no more than one side of A4. Hope that helps and good luck!
 

stargazed

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Dec 11, 2023
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I spoke to a member of GR a few weeks ago who said that they recommend submitting off the VS app! When I asked about when we can expect to hear back for Lift Off, Dec 20 was the date given. I'm not sure if that was the specific day we'll hear back or if that's just the latest date. Personally, I am thinking of waiting for LiftOff results but I'm still not super sure. 😊
thank you so much!
 
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Soniastudent

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Dec 22, 2022
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Rejected from A&O Summer Vac scheme after a 3 month internship at their Paris Office (which they extended because they liked me!).
I got a near perfect SJT and have perfect grades + double first at Oxbridge
Mad that there's not even any feedback !
That is insane that they didn’t give you feedbacks!! When did you complete your internship, and in what field if you don’t mind me asking ?
 

jta227

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Nov 10, 2024
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Rejected from A&O Summer Vac scheme after a 3 month internship at their Paris Office (which they extended because they liked me!).
I got a near perfect SJT and have perfect grades + double first at Oxbridge
Mad that there's not even any feedback !
Just thinking about this - do you think it's possible that they wanted you to apply directly for TC given your experience? I can't see you not even making it to AC unless you made some sort of mistake in your application which I doubt you did. But for them to give no feedback at all is harsh af
 

IneedaTCASAP

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Oct 14, 2024
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Thought I’d share this for the CC Video interview invite. (They receive over 4k applications)
Clifford Chance Training Contract:

I attend their insight day so thought I’d share the timeline of the application process although it’s on the website this is what graduate recruitment stated. I hope to see less panic regarding this firm on the forum given the information provided answers most if not all timeline queries.

20/11/2024 - Deadline

W/C 02/12/2024 - Video interviews will be sent, this will be sent closer to the end of the week than the beginning.

W/C 16/12/2024 - Those who successfully passed the video interview will be invited to attend an Assessment Centre in their London office in the last two weeks of January these invites will be sent towards to end of the week.

End of January - Assessment centres are taken place and you’ll hear back with an outcome within 1-2 weeks.

Extra information:
1. All invites and rejections are sent at the same time to avoid rumours or uncertainty I ensured to ask this given the absolute mess most firms have been this cycle for their winter vacation schemes.
2. Once you pass the application review and are invited to the video interview your application will no longer be a factor and it is merely based on your video interview and assessment centre performance.
3. There is a cap on how many are invited to video interview and assessment centres. do not know what the cap number is.
 

studentdelaw786

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“Thank you for your application for a place on the Gibson Dunn Virtual Open Day 2024. Whilst we were impressed with your application, we have received a significant number of applications and have a limited number of places available and we regret to inform you that your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.”

i got this email despite applying 2-3 weeks before the deadline. did anyone else get this?
 
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Jessica Booker

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Hi everyone,
does anyone know how long is ideal for the S & C cover letter? I'm at about 950 words which I can squeeze into one page at font nine but it feels too long. They don't have any guidance on their website but considering what other firms like S & M say, surely this is too long?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Font 9 is too small - should be 10 as a minimum and ideally 10.5.

Try not to “squeeze” the letter in - the document should have appropriate spacing and sizing to ensure it is easy to read. If the document looks to crowded, you make it far more difficult for your reader to digest what you are reading.
 

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