TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

billyonthespeeddial

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After one purely motivational question, Addleshaw Goddard has the additional question: "Use this space to tell us about any mitigating circumstances that you might have or any other information about you that might be relevant to your application.". Besides mitigating circumstances, is it common/does it make sense to use this section as a "Why me?" section, for example detailing skills and positions of responsibility? Or should I simply leave it blank if I don't have any mitigating circumstances? (If I had to guess, I would assume that it was intended to be only about information akin to mitigating circumstances, but I can't be sure.)
 

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After one purely motivational question, Addleshaw Goddard has the additional question: "Use this space to tell us about any mitigating circumstances that you might have or any other information about you that might be relevant to your application.". Besides mitigating circumstances, is it common/does it make sense to use this section as a "Why me?" section, for example detailing skills and positions of responsibility? Or should I simply leave it blank if I don't have any mitigating circumstances? (If I had to guess, I would assume that it was intended to be only about information akin to mitigating circumstances, but I can't be sure.)
Last year I used this section to mention some of my extracurriculars/ interests and I passed the app review stage. I also confirmed whether this was ok with GR and they agreed.
 
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In the work experience section, I have listed all my commercial law events, virtual experiences, and webinars attended in one entry. As my other legal work experiences are more pro bono, legal aid etc, I really want to use these events to explain what I did (Case studies, interactive workshops) and the skills I picked up so my motivation for commercial law comes across as strong. @Andrei Radu @Ram Sabaratnam @Amma Usman I would appreciate any insights on how best to put these experiences in writing.
So for headings, I would just put the name of the event and that of the organizer as the 'Employer' and 'Attendee/Participant' as 'Job Title'. For the main bit, I think you should just employ the normal STAR structure, with some tweaks to try to show the experience in the best light:
  • Situation: Explain in one or two sentences what was the context in which you did this workshop/case study/other event. You can consider discussing any steps in an application process, the reasons which prompted you to apply for it, how that fitted in your schedule with your other responsibilities etc.
  • Tasks: here, I would just lay out the main activity you had to do (eg describe the scenario of teh case study) with a focus on what you had to do individually even if it was part of a team effort.
  • Actions: here, you should explain what particular actions you undertook to make sure you did a good job. If you ever did anything different from what would have normally been the expectation, or went above and beyond your normal responsibilities, or showed initiative, you should focus on that.
  • Results: Explain any type of positive impacts/consequences of your role. You could include examples of high scores, commendation and praise from organizers, praise from your teammates and overall increases success. Also, this is the point where you want to make any links with your skills/why commercial law/why the firm motivations.
 

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In the work experience section, I have listed all my commercial law events, virtual experiences, and webinars attended in one entry. As my other legal work experiences are more pro bono, legal aid etc, I really want to use these events to explain what I did (Case studies, interactive workshops) and the skills I picked up so my motivation for commercial law comes across as strong. @Andrei Radu @Ram Sabaratnam @Amma Usman I would appreciate any insights on how best to put these experiences in writing.

After one purely motivational question, Addleshaw Goddard has the additional question: "Use this space to tell us about any mitigating circumstances that you might have or any other information about you that might be relevant to your application.". Besides mitigating circumstances, is it common/does it make sense to use this section as a "Why me?" section, for example detailing skills and positions of responsibility? Or should I simply leave it blank if I don't have any mitigating circumstances? (If I had to guess, I would assume that it was intended to be only about information akin to mitigating circumstances, but I can't be sure.)
I would definitely not use that as an opportunity to sell yourself. Among other things, it could demonstrate that you don't read and follow instructions. I also had no MC's, but I used this section to say that because my A'Levels are from Cambridge, A is the equivalent of A* in their grading system. I also noted that I did a 4-year degree with one year abroad at a US university. I included a link to the marks scored 1-5 and an explanation of the ranking. You can explain things in your application that might need clarifying, like those who went to secondary school in other countries and did other exams. For example, in the Caribbean, they don't do GCSC's; they do O'Levels or CSEC. Or if you did an access course vs A'Levels, etc.
 

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Is it okay if I haven't sent any applications yet? I've written answers for 2-3 applications, been researching firms and writing up my CV. I do part-time work and have law school classes as well. I do plan to send 2 applications this week as they are almost there. I have a legal internship starting next week full-time and will not be able to work on apps for 15 days and I'm already scared if that's going to delay/ make things super busy later.

I'm an international student so can mostly apply for TCs but I am applying for a few VS' that close early as well. I'm just feeling overwhelmed and wanted advice on how I could go further from here. Considering I have not also not started practising WG tests (which I am not the best at).
 

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Tell us about a challenge you have faced. What are the skills you used to overcome that challenge and how are they transferable to help you with a career as a lawyer

Is this question best answered in reference to a challenge in the pursuit of a career in law or can it be a challenge in another capacity, eg. in another role / in a personal capacity / throughout academic journey?

Hiya @wowcha

This sort of question is frequently asked in various application forms, and you can absolutely draw on any challenge from your personal or professional life. You definitely don't need to limit yourself to just law-related examples.

When answering questions like this, I’ve found it really useful to pick an example that showcases my personality and highlights what makes me stand out as a candidate. For instance, I once talked about the challenge of doing volunteer work internationally, where I had to navigate significant communication and cultural barriers in a rural part of the country I was living in at the time. This example allowed me to demonstrate my interest in other countries and culture, whilst also highlighting the skills I used to overcome the particular challenge I faced at the time.

I've read examples of people describing interesting challenges they faced at work, volunteering at a student society, or even a personal struggle - I once reviewed an excellent application where the candidate answered a very similar question and discussed overcoming a speech impediment. It was a powerful example that showed resilience and maturity.

Using a challenge from your pursuit of a legal career could work well too, depending on the example. Just bear in mind that many candidates are applying to firms, and it could be harder for you to stand out when discussing challenges in this context. Whatever example you choose, the key is to show how you approached and overcame the challenge in a thoughtful, mature way.

Good luck!
 

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After one purely motivational question, Addleshaw Goddard has the additional question: "Use this space to tell us about any mitigating circumstances that you might have or any other information about you that might be relevant to your application.". Besides mitigating circumstances, is it common/does it make sense to use this section as a "Why me?" section, for example detailing skills and positions of responsibility? Or should I simply leave it blank if I don't have any mitigating circumstances? (If I had to guess, I would assume that it was intended to be only about information akin to mitigating circumstances, but I can't be sure.)

Hiya @billyonthespeeddial

@Jessica Booker might have more to add here, but based on my understanding, these sort of questions are best used to explain any mitigating circumstances or anything that might be unusual or not immediately obvious in your application. It’s a space to provide context for any anomalies, such as gaps in your academic history or unexpected grades. I’ve used similar sections to explain that I didn’t have any standard Year 1 LLB assessments due to the impact of Covid-19, as well as certain health issues that led me to take a break from my studies during my first degree. Again, it seems that this question is designed to give you the chance to highlight any factors that might help the firm better understand your credentials in context.

Hope that helps, and best of luck with your application!
 
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Just received the CMS WG invite, I applied on Saturday morning.
@Andrei Radu and @Ram Sabaratnam do you have any tips on how to succeed with this devil test?
I recently completed the Linklaters WG and although I answered more than half of the questions correctly, I still got 45 percentile.
It is so frustrating!
Hi @AS24! So my top two tips for succeeding in the WG are the following:
  1. Pay attention to the technical meanings and rules of the specific concepts employed in each section and limit your reliance on purely intuitive judgement. Read carefully the instructions for each section and note them down in a number of short bullet points, which you can then go back to when having difficulty during the assessment. The biggest mistake I've seen people make with the WG is to treat it as a general critical thinking (IQ style) test and therefore rely too much on intuition when choosing the answer. I have found that an intuitive answer could be right in some sections and not in other. I have tended to score quite highly on the WG and my focus has been on the precise boundaries of the criteria given for each section - what can be assumed vs what can be inferred vs what can be deducted all have slightly different meanings, just as 'true', 'probable', 'beyond reasonable doubt' and 'logically certain' all have slightly different meanings. The difference between the candidates who score highly and those who score at our under average will likely depend on an ability to notice those fine distinctions.
  2. Practice tests and courses: I think that while the WG certainly has an element of critical thinking/verbal reasoning skills, this does not mean that you cannot prepare for it and improve your chances. Just like you can prepare for other assessments that have critical thinking elements (like basically every university subject), you can prepare for the WG. Moreover, I would argue that critical thinking and verbal reasoning are not innate fixed attributes, but abilities that you can hone. In my own experience, I significantly improved my performance over time. As such, I would advise you to definitely do a few practice tests. Also, consider completing TCLA's excellent course on the WG here.
 

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