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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Tintin06

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Holding myself accountable (one more application):

CC* βœ…πŸ“
HSF βœ…πŸ“βŒ
NRF βœ…πŸ“βŒ
Weil βœ…
Akin βœ…
Sidley βœ…
Orrick βœ…
Willkie βœ…πŸŽ₯❌
Cooley βœ…
Latham βœ…
Milbank βœ…
Dechert βœ…
Kirkland βœ…
Skadden βœ…
Goodwin βœ…
Covington βœ…
Linklaters* βœ…πŸ“
Freshfields βœ…
Paul, Weiss βœ…
Slaughters* βœ…βŒ
Gibson Dunn βœ…
Macfarlanes* βœ…πŸ“
White & Case βœ…
Morgan Lewis βœ…
Hogan Lovells* βœ…
Cleary Gottlieb βœ…
A&O Shearman βœ…πŸ“βŒ
Vinson & Elkins βœ…
Arnold & Porter βœ…
King & Spalding* βœ…
Morrison Foerster βœ…

Key: βœ… = application submitted; πŸ“ = test received; πŸŽ₯ = video interview; ❌ = rejection.

*Training Contract applications
 
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legalxp2

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Does anyone know about Goldman Legal.

They run a summer analyst internship for 10 weeks but not sure how it works
Do they give you a training contract? Do they help you qualify or do you just do paralegal work
It is merely an in-house role, and does not guarantee a grad role. The analyst position itself to my understanding qualifies as SQE qualifying experience but the programme does not sponsor or give time off to complete the SQE.
 

bella98

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    Two birds, one stone, one disillusioned and disheartened vac scheme applicant.

    Brief update on my app cycle experience so far.

    Rejected by those Two Birds from London today. Weren't a big fan of my chat evidently. Perhaps I was punching a bit much considering I didn't meet their "standards" (ABB instead of AAB).

    Tried to set up a date with a bobby (CPS Paralegal Officer) also rejected me. In the meeting stage, I tend to get nervous and waffle, which I guess turned them off. Their friend (Paralegal assistant) seems quite nice, however. I'm sure we could have a nice time.

    Banter aside, pretty disappointed by the CPS outcome. I'd drop all of my Commercial law apps for a public law position. It's so jarring because NONE of the services allow non-law grads w/o the PGDL to apply. It makes no sense why they are so behind the market. Every commercial firm accepts non-law students w/o PGDL and only requires that they complete the SQE (which they fund!) This means unless I self-fund, I can't apply for the direct trainee scheme. Arguably not beneficial for socially mobile backgrounds - I'm black and from a low socio-economic household.

    A wise man once said, "I know you're sad, but listen...Two birds, one sky, just forget it"
    If it helps, I passed the interview for the paralegal officer position back in May, but I've been stuck on the reserve list ever since, with no sign of a job in sight 😭
     
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    helloj

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    Sep 1, 2023
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    On my Cover Letter for White & Case I mentioned that I was applying for the Spring Vacation Scheme however on the choice of options for my preferred scheme I somehow put Winter first and then Spring as my second option. Do you think I should email them stating my preference for the Spring scheme or will my application be acknowledged for the Spring over Winter Scheme anyway?
     

    helloj

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    hey, did you complete it? what kind of questions were asked and how long did they give for preparation and speaking?
    I completed it and passed! You have around 2-3 minutes to prep and 2 minutes to give a response. There are three questions one around alignment with values and two competency based questions about how you have showcased a certain skill through previous experiences!
     

    Ram Sabaratnam

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    @Andrei Radu or @Ram Sabaratnam

    Can I ask if there's something similar to this but for VIs instead of AC interviews?

    Hiya @Aspiringsolicitor01

    I had meant to send you this response yesterday - my apologies for the delay in getting this to you!

    Just wanted to built on what @Jessica Booker said. Many firms' video interviews tend to ask similar questions to those in TCLA's interview question bank. The key is to practice answering these questions in a clear and concise way, making sure you can fit your responses within the typical 1 minute 30 seconds to 2 minutes that most VIs allow.

    One tool I found really useful for practicing is this page by ULaw: https://go.shortlister.com/marketplace/universityoflaw. It simulates video interviews done by various law firms, which can help you get used to the format and timing constraints. I used it myself before doing VIs for different firms, and it was a great way to prepare by recreating a realistic interview environment. Alternatively, you can also record yourself on your phone or laptop. This helps you refine your answers and get comfortable speaking on camera.

    Best of luck!
     
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    a1024

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    I completed it and passed! You have around 2-3 minutes to prep and 2 minutes to give a response. There are three questions one around alignment with values and two competency based questions about how you have showcased a certain skill through previous experiences!
    congratulations! did you get invited to the AC? would you mind telling me what questions they asked if you remember?
     

    MayaM0921

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    Hi @MayaM0921 and thanks for the kind words :)! To firstly deal with the structure of the 'Why you?' answer, I think what you want is something like this:
    1. Give a high level summary of what your answer will be, something like 'There are three reasons why you should offer me a place: my critical thinking skills, my organizational skills, and my teamwork abilities, all of which are essential for a trainee solicitor'.
    2. Take the first skill/ability/attribute that you mentioned, and explain to the firm how an experience or achievement of yours demonstrates it. Use the STAR structure when walking the interviewer through the experience.
    3. Explain how the skill/ability/attribute is relevant for the job of a trainee solicitor.
    4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 for the other skills/abilities/attributes.
    5. Conclude by once again giving a short summary of what your answer has been, something like 'So, to conclude, my experiences demonstrate I possess excellent critical thinking, organizational and teamwork skills, and this makes me an ideal fit for the job'.
    As for the second part of your question (regarding what skills/examples to pick) I think you have to be strategic in balancing both trying to have the most convincing possible 'why me' answer and in not boxing yourself in a position where you will be forced to repeat yourself. My strategy was to first come up with the best possible answer I could for the 'Why the firm' question, then the best possible answer for the 'Why the firm' question, then the best possible answer to the 'Why commercial law', and only then draft my 'Why you?' answer. This was because I found that only a few of my experiences and achievements, could be connected to firm USPs, slightly more could be connected to my why commercial reasoning, but a lot of them could be used for showcasing a relevant skill or attribute.

    Beyond that, in drafting my 'Why you' answer I would just use the most impressive leftover experiences, and maybe reference one or two of the experiences in the 'Why commercial law' or 'Why firm' answers if particularly impressive. While you could still be asked a competency question in the interview that forces you to be repetitive, there's no way to eliminate that risk, as there's no way of predicting what competency you will be asked about. However, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Firstly, the interviewers know candidates will not have an unlimited list of experiences to leverage, and will definitely not mind repeating one if you also consider it and discuss it from a different angle. Secondly, while this was something I worried about a lot before my interviews (as at least compared to some of my peers, my CV was not as full) in practice it was not a situation I often found myself in. If anything, the opposite happened more, in that I would not get to speak about more than 2-3 experiences and sometimes I would finish the interview without having mentioned some of my most impressive achievements.
    Thank you so much! This is so helpful and I will slowly digest it : )
     
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    gazdgazd11

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    Help pls - what does this answer mean in TW's app?
    Please provide details on your decision and elaborate on the reasons behind your choice. {Provide answer of 2500 characters}

    Is this re the use of chat GPT? (q above this one is: * Did you seek assistance from ChatGPT when completing this application? (Please note that there is not a right or wrong answer to this question, we are focusing on your integrity to this process).
     

    Bread

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    Help pls - what does this answer mean in TW's app?
    Please provide details on your decision and elaborate on the reasons behind your choice. {Provide answer of 2500 characters}

    Is this re the use of chat GPT? (q above this one is: * Did you seek assistance from ChatGPT when completing this application? (Please note that there is not a right or wrong answer to this question, we are focusing on your integrity to this process).
    I would assume that it is re the use of AI
     

    LawyerUpPal

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    Help pls - what does this answer mean in TW's app?
    Please provide details on your decision and elaborate on the reasons behind your choice. {Provide answer of 2500 characters}

    Is this re the use of chat GPT? (q above this one is: * Did you seek assistance from ChatGPT when completing this application? (Please note that there is not a right or wrong answer to this question, we are focusing on your integrity to this process).
    Jones Day had this question on their app as well. I got a PFO in the end but said: "While I chose not to use AI tools in completing my application, I fully support their integration in the legal sector and application process. Jones Day’s white paper on AI regulation highlights the firm’s recognition of AI’s transformative potential, particularly in transactional, litigation, and compliance contexts. AI can streamline processes, provide strategic insights, and mitigate errors for applicants managing multiple applications per cycle. Embracing AI aligns with Jones Day's innovative approach, ensuring efficient solutions in a competitive landscape while maintaining high legal services and recruitment standards. The content should always authentically reflect the applicant's experiences with an AI-enhancing structure".
     

    studentdelaw786

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    Just got my CAPP feedback report for Latham:

    Strengths are effective communication and personal responsibility.

    Area for development is analytical/complex training

    Should i place weight on this or is the application considered holistically?
     

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