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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2021-22 (#1)
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I am yet to even receive the WG from them!
I applied to their VS last cycle as a graduate so I think this should be fine!
True, but it won’t be your main line of work as a trainee. Saying “I’m passionate about the pro bono work X firm has done for Y community” is great but it doesn’t stand on its own when a firm is known for, say, its PE or M&A work. That doesn’t mean you need to go in advocating for your favorite Dirty Money episode, but you should have a good understanding of who your clients will mostly be.
I would really only discuss pro bono in a 'why this firm' where you can zero in something the firm does as part of its pro bono activities, why that interests you/align with your values. Even then it should be a minor part of the answer - not an afterthought, but not the main thrust
Not to beat a dead horse, but if you first came to law to do good, even if the question asked is 'why law' the question you need to answer rapidly becomes 'why commercial law'
This is maybe a bit different at a firm with a big public administrative practice like Mishcon where you could wax poetic about the Miller case but I'd still be cautious.
In all seriousness, if you came to law to do good why are you now looking for employment as a hired gun for big corporates? The answer cannot be 'because it's where the money is' (even if that is true). Maybe you think, well, lawyers are in a privileged position to keep corporations honest and accountable. Maybe you think, well, a bunch of economists say dealmaking is good for efficiency, creates value, that's good for society, and I want to use my particular skills and knowledge to contribute to that.
Mind, don't say those things if you don't believe them - you have to at least somewhat buy into the premise. It's perfectly fine imo to say 'well, I was drawn by public interest considerations but realised that that's not where my skillset really lies and I think I'd be better suited to a commercial career, and do a bit of pro bono on the side, I got really interested in business law because etc. etc.'
This is maybe a bit different at a firm with a big public administrative practice like Mishcon where you could wax poetic about the Miller case but I'd still be cautious.
In all seriousness, if you came to law to do good why are you now looking for employment as a hired gun for big corporates? The answer cannot be 'because it's where the money is' (even if that is true). Maybe you think, well, lawyers are in a privileged position to keep corporations honest and accountable. Maybe you think, well, a bunch of economists say dealmaking is good for efficiency, creates value, that's good for society, and I want to use my particular skills and knowledge to contribute to that.
Mind, don't say those things if you don't believe them - you have to at least somewhat buy into the premise. It's perfectly fine imo to say 'well, I was drawn by public interest considerations but realised that that's not where my skillset really lies and I think I'd be better suited to a commercial career, and do a bit of pro bono on the side, I got really interested in business law because etc. etc.'
Completely agree commercial law is part of law at the end of the day and they will both have a very similar answer especially if you are interviewing at a commercial law firm!
The measure you’re looking for is called PPEP = profit per equity partner. Should be relatively easy to find with a quick Google/search of legal news outlets.
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