TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Misty Meanor

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Unfortunately this is highly unlikely for a number of reasons.

1) You'd be limited to 20 hours a week. For anything over 20 hours a week, you'd need to be sponsored by that employer too.

2) It would need to be in an eligible role for a skilled visa, which an internship is unlikely to meet.

Most people I know on skilled visas have not been able to proceed with an internship unfortunately.
Oh no
 

trainee4u

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I have restructured my answer all by myself, copied and pasted on AI detectors like contentai and originalai, and it's coming out as 100% human. However, in quillbot, it's still flagging at 56% ai. Will be grateful for any input on how to deal with it?

I'm so confused. I swear that I didn't use chatgpt. This one paragraph I wrote it on my own to answer the application questions but it's flagging as AI on quillbot and other sites. It's flagging upto around 40-50-80% and I haven't used AI for those. I'm so stressed what should I do? Changing tye words isn't helping


Bit confused.

Sounds like you used AI for some parts of your answer(s) and not for others? Not quite clear from your post.

Firstly, some firms encourage the use of AI, others don't mention it, while others do prohibit it. However, I'm not sure that AI checks are likely to extend beyond simply rejecting obviously (to a human) AI-written content.

In addition, this is not an exam, so there is no Turnitin score to meet. Firms will toss your application for unpredictable reasons and there's nothing you can do about that - they get thousands of applications and must reject 99%. I would not even consider checking my answers with an AI detector if they were hand-written, and probably not if they were. It's just not something to worry about.
 

MaryAra299

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Bit confused.

Sounds like you used AI for some parts of your answer(s) and not for others? Not quite clear from your post.

Firstly, some firms encourage the use of AI, others don't mention it, while others do prohibit it. However, I'm not sure that AI checks are likely to extend beyond simply rejecting obviously (to a human) AI-written content.

In addition, this is not an exam, so there is no Turnitin score to meet. Firms will toss your application for unpredictable reasons and there's nothing you can do about that - they get thousands of applications and must reject 99%. I would not even consider checking my answers with an AI detector if they were hand-written, and probably not if they were. It's just not something to worry about.
I used Ai for ideas on what's going on in the industry, what are the biggest business deals currently and I also used Google articles for those. But I didn't copy and paste anything, just took ideas from chatgpt and Google articles. In other sites it's not getting flagged now but only in quillbot it is, what can be tye possible reason?
 

allenpopi

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I used Ai for ideas on what's going on in the industry, what are the biggest business deals currently and I also used Google articles for those. But I didn't copy and paste anything, just took ideas from chatgpt and Google articles. In other sites it's not getting flagged now but only in quillbot it is, what can be tye possible reason?
I used AI in most of my applications to meet the word limits and I passed the initial screening in most of my applications like over 60% , so I wouldn't stress about it. Just make sure to check the ai-use policies and if firms prohibit it
 

trainee4u

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I used Ai for ideas on what's going on in the industry, what are the biggest business deals currently and I also used Google articles for those. But I didn't copy and paste anything, just took ideas from chatgpt and Google articles. In other sites it's not getting flagged now but only in quillbot it is, what can be tye possible reason?
just ignore it, a lot of these tools are garbage.
 

rapunzel

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just ignore it, a lot of these tools are garbage.
Yeah I second this, even when I wrote my own answers and put it through these detectors out of curiosity it would always flag up parts of it. It's impossible to pass these detectors because AI is getting smarter and is meant to replicate how we think as humans. Sometimes these tools just flag up certain styles of writing as AI like using ; and - a lot will get it flagged up. Don't worry about it.
 

BobThebIlly

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Hey everyone, I have a quick question that might sound a bit silly. I'm filling out an application that asks for the level of study for my GCSEs, and the options are: higher, foundation, intermediate, and double award.

What should I select for subjects like English Literature, English Language, and others that didn’t specify a level?
 

3000to1shoteverytime

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Hey everyone, I have a quick question that might sound a bit silly. I'm filling out an application that asks for the level of study for my GCSEs, and the options are: higher, foundation, intermediate, and double award.

What should I select for subjects like English Literature, English Language, and others that didn’t specify a level?
They will be higher.

You will know if you were entered into a lower scoring gcse. Highers mean that the grades will go up to a 9 or A* so I would assume they are the ones you entered.
 

floral.tcla

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I find the ‘why this office’ questions so annoying. I get why law firms ask. But also, my legitimate answer and 99% of my rationale is: “I live in London” lol
nah cos respectfully why would people take a 40k salary in the north over 100k for the job at the exact same firm in London (obviously I get that ppl may want to stay in the north but as a northerner myself I want GTFO and move to London esp cos it's busy and wayyyy more diverse - and the money is not bad either lol)
 

trainee4u

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They will be higher.

You will know if you were entered into a lower scoring gcse. Highers mean that the grades will go up to a 9 or A* so I would assume they are the ones you entered.
Just to clarify:
  • in the past some GCSEs had a choice between foundation, intermediate and higher, but intermediate has been eliminated
  • now some subjects require teachers to choose between foundation or higher, where it is impossible to get respectively the highest and lowest grades when sitting that paper, while others are classed as untiered, meaning the same paper is sat by all candidates, and all outcomes (1-9) are possible.
  • an untiered paper is neither foundation nor higher. In this scenario it's an error by the form designers, who have failed to keep track with reforms from 10 years ago. If the form is provided by a third party, I'd send them an email asking them to correct their form, but I'd ultimately just choose 'higher'
 
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BobThebIlly

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Thank you for the reply guys -- ill change it to higher

I have one more question about the work experience section. There’s an option to add “other” work experience in a separate box. Should I include my insight schemes there, or would it be better to list them alongside my main work experience entries?
 

wqueens8

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nah cos respectfully why would people take a 40k salary in the north over 100k for the job at the exact same firm in London (obviously I get that ppl may want to stay in the north but as a northerner myself I want GTFO and move to London esp cos it's busy and wayyyy more diverse - and the money is not bad either lol)
Ignoring other factors like diversity and business etc, i'm really debating over this for my next cycle.

I'm from near the peak district and could easily work in Sheffield, Manchester, Leeds. If it's 40k vs 100k then it's London no brainer. But for the higher paying firms like DLA piper, I'm not sure which to apply to. I'm keen to experience London, but if I can live at home and commute to Sheffield, earning 75k NQ (mind, DLA is an outlier), I would be RAKING IT IN. Could be putting 40k a year into savings/investments/house deposit. Vs earning 110k in London, and just about being comfortable.
 
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Tintin06

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Just to clarify:
  • in the past some GCSEs had a choice between foundation, intermediate and higher, but intermediate has been eliminated
  • now some subjects require teachers to choose between foundation or higher, where it is impossible to get respectively the highest and lowest grades when sitting that paper, while others are classed as untiered, meaning the same paper is sat by all candidates, and all outcomes (1-9) are possible.
  • an untiered paper is neither foundation nor higher. In this scenario it's an error by the form designers, who have failed to keep track with reforms from 10 years ago. If the form is provided by a third party, I'd send them an email asking them to correct their form, but I'd ultimately just choose 'higher'
I feel old with Foundation Science.
 

trainee4u

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Ignoring other factors like diversity and business etc, i'm really debating over this for my next cycle.

I'm from near the peak district and could easily work in Sheffield, Manchester, Leeds. If it's 40k vs 100k then it's London no brainer. But for the higher paying firms like DLA piper, I'm not sure which to apply to. I'm keen to experience London, but if I can live at home and commute to Sheffield, earning 75k NQ (mind, DLA is an outlier), I would be RAKING IT IN. Could be putting 40k a year into savings/investments/house deposit. Vs earning 110k in London, and just about being comfortable.
London is very broken, and standards of living in this country have been declining for decades due to the idiots we have governing us.

£75k is £54k take-home, whereas £110k is £72k.

If you're renting that's still a better lifestyle in London, but hours likely to be longer, and in the long term, the price of more substantial property in London is quite insane - it's over £1m for a 3-bed house that was historically for working-class people, and the sort of house that my grandfather would have considered a middle-class property is around £4m, and you're still likely to be mugged for your iphone on the way to work.
 

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