TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[FutureTraineeMaybe]

Hello everyone

I had a doubt regarding my Cooley application - they have a question regarding 'what stage are you in at the time of application'. However I'm not working currently and am a recent graduate, so I'm unsure of what to put down for this question. If anyone could help out, I'd be immensely grateful
@Ram Sabaratnam @Amma Usman @Andrei Radu, any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated

 

[xMontmorency]

lol me and my lazy ass, I think I’m burnt out from blitzing all these online events and applications since September. I looked at the clock when I woke up and it was 2pm… so I just thought what the hell, and resumed my shuteye!

I do agree with you about their advantages and also much prefer in person open days than online. I will miss attending in person open days once I’ve secured a TC because I enjoy the process learning so much and meeting people at the firm and other attendees… in fact I’ve made a one or two very close friends through an in person open day I attended.

Defintley agree that it shows a commitment, I’ve seen that Allaboutlaw are hosting a webinar with Paul Weiss in Jan, so will look into that.

Numbers wise it’s overwhelming but it’s worth a shot. You never know, it may be you who ends up with a TC offer at Paul Weiss- you may just end up surprising yourself.

Wishing you a lovely Xmas and all the best with your applications and upcoming TC endeavours

Idk if this is just my perspective but I've never found open days particularly helpful. Last year, I did open days at multiple firms (W&C, Shearman, TW, Jones Day, Latham) and didn't get any offers from them (but I did get a VS offer from a firm I had not done an open day with). I did the October open day at Paul, Weiss and I don't think it really gave me much better insight into the firm than I would have scanning the internet. I think it might just be a thing to show off on an application, but even then idk whether 'I attended an open day' is enough to secure a VS with them. I think if you have a genuine interest in PE, just apply and see whether they see potential in you.

 

[Shandy101]

For this question: What are your motivations for wanting to pursue a career as a Solicitor at DWF? (250 words)

Do I need to split my answer equally between why commercial law and then why DWF? Or say why DWF only? Any help is appreciated!

I would interpret this as 'Why the firm', in which case I would do 3 paragraphs: 1. the work (most important thing-maybe practice area ur interested in bolstered by rankings on Chambers- their rankings are not great), 2. the culture (whether small trainee intake, early responsibility etc.), 3. pro bono work they have done and/ OR diversity and inclusion; however, given they have no direct question on the app about 'why commercial law', you could open with "I’m keen to become a commercial solicitor due to the unique blend of legal and business advice that characterises commercial law........(one sentence). I am interested in DWF primarily because of its London-based top-tier Banking & Finance practice.....250 words is not a lot, so use your judgment. Good luck!

 

[Shandy101]

Idk if this is just my perspective but I've never found open days particularly helpful. Last year, I did open days at multiple firms (W&C, Shearman, TW, Jones Day, Latham) and didn't get any offers from them (but I did get a VS offer from a firm I had not done an open day with). I did the October open day at Paul, Weiss and I don't think it really gave me much better insight into the firm than I would have scanning the internet. I think it might just be a thing to show off on an application, but even then idk whether 'I attended an open day' is enough to secure a VS with them. I think if you have a genuine interest in PE, just apply and see whether they see potential in you.

I agree to a degree. They can be a colossal waste of time, especially if you work and study or don't live in London. That said, if you're in year 1 or 2 and don't work, they can be helpful in getting to know the firm and the people and little tidbits for the application that can make your application shine. I've been to one at Weil 2 years ago and one at HL this year and both gave me useful application nuggets. I would say you can get the exact same info through research, so it's not a must, but it can be a plus. Also, free food and drinks are always welcome.

Interestingly, a friend of mine went to an open day and had a chat with a partner (global head of PE at a US firm) who told him to email him if he applied. He did, and the partner emailed grad recruitment and said to look out for his application; he is now doing his TC there!

 

[Shandy101]

Hello everyone

I had a doubt regarding my Cooley application - they have a question regarding 'what stage are you in at the time of application'. However I'm not working currently and am a recent graduate, so I'm unsure of what to put down for this question. If anyone could help out, I'd be immensely grateful View attachment 6540

In employment. I suspect that if you select any of the others, it will try to solicit more information.

 

[Tintin06]

Hello everyone

I had a doubt regarding my Cooley application - they have a question regarding 'what stage are you in at the time of application'. However I'm not working currently and am a recent graduate, so I'm unsure of what to put down for this question. If anyone could help out, I'd be immensely grateful View attachment 6540

This is very restrictive, oh my. It doesn’t even catch self employment. I would put in employment lol. Applying feels like a full-time job.

 

[sapphireoreos]

did they send you an initial email saying you past the benchmark on the online test?

Nope, they just sent me an email saying that I didn't pass the benchmark in the online test

 

[sapphireoreos]

Any thoughts on how to tackle these questions from Withers and Penningtons Manches Cooper respectively?
1. If your favourite childhood toy suddenly came to life, what advice would you give it today? (60 words)
2. If you were the CEO of Penningtons Manches Cooper, where would you look to open a new office and why? (250 words)

Thanks!

 

[fairbourne]

Weil VI link came through - have until 5th Jan to complete

Do you know if they review VIs on a rolling basis?

 

[jta227]

1. If your favourite childhood toy suddenly came to life, what advice would you give it today? (60 words)

Sometimes I wonder if these firms want people to just make stuff up lol. I never had any childhood toys past an age where I can remember. Furthermore some people's favourite toys could be something like a lego... anyways I guess they're looking for creativity and for you to perhaps introspectively assess your past experiences to summarise what you've learnt in the period between being a child and now. Maybe try and align with the firm's values if possible as well. It's also 60 words so conciseness is probably assessed.

 

[gazdgazd11]

Any thoughts on how to tackle these questions from Withers and Penningtons Manches Cooper respectively?
1. If your favourite childhood toy suddenly came to life, what advice would you give it today? (60 words)
2. If you were the CEO of Penningtons Manches Cooper, where would you look to open a new office and why? (250 words)

Thanks!

My cue to not apply there cause I REFUSE to answer questions like this omg

 

[NCTC2025]

Hoping for a christmas miracle next week 🙏

 

[Gday33]

My cue to not apply there cause I REFUSE to answer questions like this omg

With you on this - if a firm has bs questions they’ll elicit bs answers and I’ve got better things to do with my time 😂

 

[Maddy]

I have a question and would greatly appreciate your guidance as I am feeling quite unsure. I was considering applying to Paul, Weiss, but after reading some forum messages, I understand the firm places a significant emphasis on high academic marks, likely expecting a strong record of firsts and 2:1s. In my case, I have one first, several 2:1s, and a few 2:2s, and I completed my undergraduate degree outside the UK. Given these circumstances, would it still be worth applying to Paul, Weiss? I want to be realistic and avoid spending time if the firm mostly seeks candidates with consistently high grades or exceptional achievements.

 

[jta227]

I have a question and would greatly appreciate your guidance as I am feeling quite unsure. I was considering applying to Paul, Weiss, but after reading some forum messages, I understand the firm places a significant emphasis on high academic marks, likely expecting a strong record of firsts and 2:1s. In my case, I have one first, several 2:1s, and a few 2:2s, and I completed my undergraduate degree outside the UK. Given these circumstances, would it still be worth applying to Paul, Weiss? I want to be realistic and avoid spending time if the firm mostly seeks candidates with consistently high grades or exceptional achievements.

In their open day today they implied a few blips are fine and a 2.1 overall is fine. They also said they would treat every mark as equal regardless of the university they were achieved at (which I don't consider equitable tbh but fair enough). One post above said they looked up the current associates and they all had 1sts, but this could just be a correlation with the kind of candidate they accepted at lateral level. Since this is their first admissions year we really don't know how much weight they'll place on academics. I think if your profile is strong in other areas it's definitely still worth applying. They didn't seem as strict as for example a Slaughter & May.

For everyone else applying, another tidbit from the open day: the first stage is a spelling check of the whole application. So basically don't make a mistake or the application won't be read.

 

[Maddy]

In their open day today they implied a few blips are fine and a 2.1 overall is fine. They also said they would treat every mark as equal regardless of the university they were achieved at (which I don't consider equitable tbh but fair enough). One post above said they looked up the current associates and they all had 1sts, but this could just be a correlation with the kind of candidate they accepted at lateral level. Since this is their first admissions year we really don't know how much weight they'll place on academics. I think if your profile is strong in other areas it's definitely still worth applying. They didn't seem as strict as for example a Slaughter & May.

For everyone else applying, another tidbit from the open day: the first stage is a spelling check of the whole application. So basically don't make a mistake or the application won't be read.

Thank you so much! I guess I will try.

 

[Tintin06]

I have a question and would greatly appreciate your guidance as I am feeling quite unsure. I was considering applying to Paul, Weiss, but after reading some forum messages, I understand the firm places a significant emphasis on high academic marks, likely expecting a strong record of firsts and 2:1s. In my case, I have one first, several 2:1s, and a few 2:2s, and I completed my undergraduate degree outside the UK. Given these circumstances, would it still be worth applying to Paul, Weiss? I want to be realistic and avoid spending time if the firm mostly seeks candidates with consistently high grades or exceptional achievements.

I got some 2:2s and applied. If you like them, do it. Grades aren't everything to a firm. What do you have to lose? My degree marks didn't matter elsewhere. Latham, W&C and Ropes ACs previously. More things to life than grades. Commercial awareness is also very important. It's also about getting experience, honestly. This gets easier with time, obviously. Many grade questions on this forum. It's understandable, but don't overthink them. Focus on areas where you're strong.

 

[ashwright]

Any thoughts on how to tackle these questions from Withers and Penningtons Manches Cooper respectively?
1. If your favourite childhood toy suddenly came to life, what advice would you give it today? (60 words)
2. If you were the CEO of Penningtons Manches Cooper, where would you look to open a new office and why? (250 words)

Thanks!

If my Lego mini figures came to life, I'd probably just call up Warner Bros and say that I'm making a Lego Movie 3 with half the budget. The only advice I'd give to my minifigure is to invest their earnings from being a movie star 🤣

 

[ttyl]

Anyone know if Dechert has sent out Spring AC invites yet? Until when do the Spring AC's even take place?

 

[fffvfdsfv]

any tips for weil VI? can give tips for hogan lovells, jones day, slaughters, freshfields, skadden and a few more that I have progressed in stages to/gotten offers from!