TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

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Deloitte PFO... I haven't even received any online test. I meet the eligibility criteria and the application stage didn't include any work experience sections or application questions? What could they possibly reject me on T_T
Did you list any SQE/LPC quals on your form? I know they don’t take people who have completed those, and they’re hesitant on people who even start say SQE1 ahead of joining them. I’m trying to get more info on their eligibility of joining if I decide to complete SQE1.
 

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hello does anyone have an idea how to approach or structure this question We believe that successful lawyers are great Shapers: individuals with interests, hobbies, passions or visions; and the drive and motivation to develop these in order to shape the world around them. We're looking for people who can shape the information they are given; shape arguments; shape relationships; shape solutions. Tell us about a time that you have demonstrated being a Shaper. (300 words max) *

Hey @V2002


It seems the law firms are getting really creative with their questions haha! I’m loving it!

To approach this question, choose one element of being a shaper, as seen in the question. In this example, I’ve taken a strong direction by choosing the "shaping a solution" aspect to specifically demonstrate problem-solving skills.

I’ve included a structured way to build on this. Although, feel free to ‘shape’ it to your preferences and past experiences - see what I did there? Haha!

1. Start with a Brief Introduction

- Open with a sentence explaining that you’ll focus on the “shaping a solution” element, as it allowed you to creatively tackle a challenge. This introduction frames your answer and directly connects it to the qualities the firm is looking for in a “Shaper.”


2. Explain Why Shaping a Solution is Important

- Highlight that shaping solutions is essential in legal practice because it requires adaptability, creativity, and effective problem-solving—qualities that allow lawyers to overcome client challenges. Mention that this aspect also aligns with the “Shaper” role they described, emphasising innovation and proactive problem-solving.


3. Provide a Relevant Example of Shaping a Solution

- Describe a specific professional or academic experience where you faced a significant challenge and shaped a solution. Outline the context briefly (e.g., a legal internship, a group project, or a challenging assignment) and the specific problem you encountered.

- Discuss the approach you took to “shape” the solution. Detail your problem-solving process, showcasing how you analysed the issue, considered multiple angles, and used creativity or research to craft an effective solution. Emphasise any strategic or analytical thinking involved.

Example:

- During a legal internship, I encountered a challenging task to assess a complex contractual issue. Recognising that existing resources were insufficient, I proactively conducted additional research and proposed using a new analytical framework to evaluate the clauses, eventually presenting my findings to my supervisor. My solution enabled the team to streamline similar reviews in the future, demonstrating my ability to shape a strategic approach to unexpected issues.


4. Demonstrate Shaping Skills in Other Contexts

- If you’re discussing other shaping scenarios, mention any experience in things like negotiation competitions, mock court proceedings, or any other relevant activities where you shaped arguments or relationships, for instance. These experiences underscore your versatility as a “Shaper” beyond just problem-solving, showing how you mould information and relationships to achieve results.

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- Additionally, my participation in a negotiation competition taught me to shape arguments persuasively and adapt my approach based on the responses of opposing counsel. This experience further honed my ability to think strategically under pressure, a skill essential for shaping outcomes in a legal setting.


5. Conclude with a Forward-Looking Statement

- Finish by expressing how these experiences have shaped your approach as an aspiring lawyer. You could say something like you’re excited to bring this problem-solving mindset to your future role, where you’ll continue shaping solutions, arguments, and relationships to make a positive impact. For the sake of word count though, keep this shorter than the actual discussion.
 

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how did you get a Paralegal interview with AG, any tips?
Applied on the website - no tips I'm afraid I think it's just luck and a blessing. I'm a career Changer so the field (paralegal field not law) relates to what I'm currently doing.

Sorry I can't provide advice, during the telephone interview stage (last step I did) I think i was able to demonstrate that I would love to work there
 
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Andrei Radu

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How are people getting multiple ACs and VS offers? I've often heard that firms like people who are the sort of people who are going to get a TC anyway, but I've never felt like that person, and for me it relies on luck, personal chemistry with the interviews, and similar. Last year, I only got ACs at 10% of firms I applied to (three ACs, one VS). This year, I'm doing worse and have actually gone backwards (no AC with W&C as of yet compared to last year and rejected from Willkie after the VI).
Hey @Tintin06 just to add to some of the great responses from other members:

1. I truly do not think there is a 'successful' type - and the reason for that is my personal experience. In the past, I used to think such a type of person did exist, and I would imagine them having all the qualities that I thought I lacked: being extremely confident and business-savvy, great at networking and well-connected in the City, having multiple prestigious prior work experiences and awards and so on. In my first application cycle, I made around 11-12 FYS applications and was rejected at the first stage in every single one. So, if I knew anyone who wasn't 'the type', that was definitely me.

However, I ended my second cycle with 4 VS offers from elite US/MC firms and then 3 TC offers. This is because I worked a lot harder and worked a lot smarter the second time around, not because I became a fundamentally different person. In my experience, this also applies to the other people I know who received multiple offers - they actually tended to be closer to the 'quiet' type rather than any Harvey Specter-like character. My point is, I do not think there are any people who are simply 'made' to be successful. Thinking that there is a 'type' and that you are not among them will only hurt your self-confidence and consequently hurt your success chances.

2. You should not feel disheartened because of your perceived lack of success so far this cycle. I know a candidate who was in a very similar position to you last year, and who, similarly to you, has been very motivated to succeed this cycle. They have started applying in early August and had already completed 30+ applications weeks ago. Until very recently, they were getting rejected left, right, and center, and they also thought they were doing worse than last year. However, in a span of 2 weeks, they got 4 AC invites.

As such, my advice is to know your worth and keep at it, perhaps while also integrating some of the advice of the other members regarding application research and writing. If you do so, I think it's very possible that you might do so well that by the end of the cycle you will also be seen as part of the was-always-going-to-succeed type :)!
 

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