TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[billyonthespeeddial]

Do people actually use chatgpt to write a whole 250 word answer to why law or why this firm. Or just partially?

I’m personally anti AI because I used it to ask a question regarding an apostrophe placement and it got it wrong and I had to correct it. I was not impressed and couldn’t imagine using it for any sort of online test, considering it could get something so minor as an apostrophe placement wrong.

I meant the Dechert assessment but I agree

I asked it a question about Pokemon type effectiveness and it got that one wrong so...

 

[billyonthespeeddial]

I have got yesterday

When did you apply/do the WG? A bit anxious about this one sorry

 

[lolasparks]

Just to add to @Jessica Booker's great response here, since I ended up being progressed by DLA last year, I thought it might be useful to copy here the answer I wrote. The first paragraph illustrates Jessica's point about connecting the key challenges to your experiences and profile, while the second illustrates the point about using the firm's specific terminology when mentioning resources.

The first challenge I anticipate is delivering high-quality work even when I must simultaneously manage multiple workstreams with tight deadlines. Firstly, to prioritise effectively I would ask the assignor of any work how long it should take me to finish it and how strict the deadline is. Secondly, I would ask for the support of my trainee buddy to learn how to complete routine tasks more efficiently. In my summer internship I finished my Legislative Update email quicker by using (lawyer's name)’s tips, which enabled me to focus on research for a presentation I delivered in front of the entire firm. Consequently, I received positive feedback from my supervisor for the many cases and academic sources I cited.

The second challenge I envisage is starting from the beginning with each rotational cycle, which can be difficult after finally gaining some experience in the previous seat. I would attempt to make the transition easier by anticipating and preparing for the usual trainee work in that practice area, using resources like the Internal Knowledge Hub. I would also invite trainees from that seat for a coffee, where they can share advice and experiences in adapting to the style of the supervisors.

Hi, this is great! I was wondering whether it would be possible to get any examples on the first application questions, I'm really struggling to fit two examples in 200 words. Thank you

 

[desperateTCseeker1998]

have u done the written assessment or AC? I did mt written assessment three weeks ago and nothing since

Yeah I did my written two weeks ago

 

[gimmeavacschemepls]

Does anyone know anything about the Mishcon video interview? I submitted my application a couple days before the deadline but haven't received any news from them as to where/when this will happen - I thought it would be another part of the initial process before assessment centres. In fact they sent an email saying they would be reviewing my application so I am confused/slightly worried

Hey,

It seems that the next step in the application process will be a video interview, assuming they’re satisfied with your written submission. There is no need to worry just yet—the deadline only just closed, so there’s still plenty of time for them to review everything.

 

[studentdelaw786]

Hey guys,

After I applied for Davis Polk’s Insight Day, I got an auto email saying the following: “If you are successful, you will be invited to an assessment day in January. Dates will be confirmed nearer to the time.”

I assume this refers to the vac scheme apps, but does this indicate that the vac scheme deadline is rolling? And should I draft the vac scheme app before I know the result of my Insight Day app?

 

[Jessica Booker]

Hey guys,

After I applied for Davis Polk’s Insight Day, I got an auto email saying the following: “If you are successful, you will be invited to an assessment day in January. Dates will be confirmed nearer to the time.”

I assume this refers to the vac scheme apps, but does this indicate that the vac scheme deadline is rolling? And should I draft the vac scheme app before I know the result of my Insight Day app?

I don’t think it indicates anything beyond that if you secure a place on the open day you will automatically receive an assessment centre spot.

I would wait until you know the outcome of your open day application before applying to the vacation scheme.

 

[g.cl.2020344]

Yeah I did my written two weeks ago

yeah I did my written exercise for dechert over two weeks ago and they said I would hear soon when I emailed this week so I'm really hoping I hear something today about a possible ac next week idk tho am losing hope tbh.

 

[Soprano]

I have got yesterday

is this for winter?spring?summer?

 

[Andrei Radu]

Hi, this is great! I was wondering whether it would be possible to get any examples on the first application questions, I'm really struggling to fit two examples in 200 words. Thank you

Hi @lolasparks I have copied my answer bellow (with the names of some lawyers redacted). It is mainly based around my previous work experience with DLA, but I hope it might still be helpful. Also, feel free to post your thoughts on how you think of approaching the question or a draft answer for it - I would be glad to give you some high-level feedback!

The principal reason I want to join DLA Piper is the firm’s supportive and collaborative culture, since during the Summer Associates Programme at DLA Piper Dinu I benefited from the entire team taking an active interest in my development. As I was the only first-year student and the only intern who had not studied Romanian law, senior associates like (lawyer name) spent additional time to explain each task in detail. Another instance was when Counsel (lawyer name) invited me for lunch to discuss my future career goals and allocated me tasks that involved multi-jurisdictional research, enabling me to leverage my English contract law expertise. This continuous support allowed me to perform at a high standard and earn a letter of recommendation from the country’s managing partner.

While attending the ‘A day in the life at DLA Piper’ online presentation, I became convinced that the English offices place just as much emphasis on these values. Natalie Dalton explained that during the pandemic, the firm encouraged people to join periodic online meetings to play social games. The fact that DLA cared about making their employees feel connected further confirms my conclusion that the firm’s culture is aligned with my personal values.

 

[bella98]

Hill Dickinson application
As a firm, we operate across a number of sectors and specialisms, and offer sector-specific training contracts in each of our business services, health and marine groups. Which of our teams would you be most interested in completing a seat in and why?

I think the word "seat" confuses me here. Are they asking whether I want to pursue the Business Services, Health, or Marine training contract?

I started my answer by saying I’m especially interested in the Business Services TC and explaining why. Then, I talked about a specific seat I’d like to experience within that.
Just want to make sure I'm on the right track.

@Andrei Radu 🙏

 

[Rosscarr08]

How long does it take to receive Arctic Shores test?

 

[m12]

people who have gotten cov ac - when did you apply pls

 

[Amma Usman]

What are some challenges facing ALL law firms in the next 5 years?

Hey @emma.d

This is a great question! I was actually going to post a similar thread on this in the weekly commercial awareness brief today, and have included it in some more detail here. I’ve focused on five general headings, with some subheadings under each for ease of navigation.

1. Adapting to Technological Advancements and AI

- Automation of Legal Processes: Artificial intelligence (AI) is increasingly used for tasks like document review, legal research, and contract analysis. While this can improve efficiency, it also raises questions about the future of junior roles traditionally responsible for these tasks.

- Digital Transformation: Law firms are expected to embrace technology in various ways, such as remote collaboration, virtual trials, and digital case management. Firms that don’t keep pace with digital transformation may struggle to stay competitive, while those that invest heavily will face higher costs and implementation risks.


2. Increasing Competition and Pricing Pressures

- Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs): ALSPs, including legal tech companies and consulting firms, offer specialised services at lower costs, capturing more of the market for basic legal tasks. This requires law firms to justify higher fees by demonstrating added value.

- Client Demand for Fixed-Fee or Alternative Billing: Clients are pushing for predictable legal costs, moving away from the billable hour model. Law firms will need to adapt their pricing structures to offer value-based billing models, which may reduce revenue and demand a rethink of traditional budgeting and resource allocation.

- Globalization and Market Saturation: Larger firms are expanding into international markets, but this comes with regulatory, logistical, and cultural challenges. Increased competition from global firms means local firms must find ways to distinguish themselves or risk losing market share.


3. Meeting Rising Expectations Around ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance)

- Environmental Compliance and Climate Risk: Clients are seeking legal advice on sustainability and regulatory compliance as global environmental standards evolve. Law firms will need to build expertise in environmental law and advise on sustainable practices, which may require investing in new areas of practice.


4. Talent Retention and Workforce Expectations

- Demand for Work-Life Balance: The younger workforce prioritizes work-life balance, flexibility, and purpose-driven work. Rigid, traditional law firm cultures may struggle to attract and retain talent if they don’t adapt to these expectations.

- Remote and Hybrid Work: Post-pandemic, many lawyers want flexibility in where they work. Firms must balance remote work options with the need for in-person collaboration and mentorship, while ensuring productivity and maintaining a cohesive culture.


5. Navigating Regulatory Changes and Increasing Compliance Demands

- Complex Compliance Landscape: Law firms will face pressure to stay updated with global regulations, from data protection (like GDPR in the EU) to anti-money laundering (AML) requirements. Compliance demands can be costly, especially for firms with international clients.


Overall, I would say that these challenges will require law firms to innovate, invest in technology, and evolve their cultures and practices to stay competitive and attract clients and talent alike.

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi Amma,

I just wanted to bounce off this and ask another q related to this. So the firm I'm applying to is quite strong in EM and so I wanted to potentially talk about how the US tariffs would impact the trade deals in EMs going forward as a topical issue if I were to be asked. Would you still advice against it?

@Andrei Radu would love your thoughts too!​

Hey @mfuturetrainee

I agree with @Andrei Radu ’s point on circling round the general impacts and effects on law firms. It will be a great way to demonstrate commercial awareness during an interview - just be mindful to not focus too heavily on reflecting any personal political opinions on the matter.

 

[Parsorandini]

Has anyone heard for Hogan Lovells post WG for WVS AC?

Are we just being silly still keeping hope? The VS starts in less than 4 weeks! Surely the most likely thing is just that anyone offered an AC place is just not on this forum?

 

[josiemusgra]

Hi, does anyone have any tips for Wilkie's video interview as I failed mine last year ?

 

[lolololol]

white and case open day pfo 😔

 

[Uch21]

Have HSF changed their test from last year?

No, it is still the same format. SJT then personality questionnaire.

 

[stargazed]

Tie it to you first - you should focus on your challenges, rather than generically what most trainees could say.

Then tie it to the firm. Try to be specific about the firm's resources you could use. Name them using the terminology the firm uses - be specific as possible.

Ensure your answer is forward looking rather than relying on past examples to show your skills. You should picture yourself in the firm with the challenges you identify rather than talking about how your previous experiences have set you up well (if that is the case, it would not be a challenge for you).

thank you!! am I right to say that what they're looking for in the answer would the ability to recognise challenges within yourself and identify how to overcome with them?