TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

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    In the interest of transparency, my results were:

    Grit: 6/9
    Applied Intellect: 7/9
    Creative: 3/9
    Digital: 6/9

    Applied Verbal: Excelled

    Tbh i don't know what to make of these results, especially the 3/9. Will not keep hopes high.
    TBF, this could be one of those tests where its not possible to get high marks in every category
     

    The-PFO-Collector

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    Baker McKenzie SJT scores

    Grit: 4/9
    Applied Intellect: 1/9
    Creative Force: 4/9
    Digital Mindset: 6/9

    Applied Verbal Intellect: Apparently I "excelled"

    Make it make sense. I'm expecting a rejection now.
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    This can be gamed.
    I messed around with my answers when sitting it for various law firms last year.
    It's 'easier' than the WGT
    I'm still working on how to get 9/9/9/9, any help is welcomed.
     

    Jessica Booker

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    This can be gamed.
    I messed around with my answers when sitting it for various law firms last year.
    It's 'easier' than the WGT
    I'm still working on how to get 9/9/9/9, any help is welcomed.
    I would strongly suspect it is impossible to score 9 across all elements based on how the test is designed - there is likely to be some contradictory elements that mean you would score lower on one element but higher on another based on the way you answer.
     

    lawyersum

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    Each firm may put a different emphasis on the test. Not all firms heavily depend on it.
    Perhaps best to find out how heavily BM rely on it to screen for those who go through to the next stage.
    Perhaps someone who went to a BM Open Day this year can shed light on this point...
    I went to an open day, all that was said is that they have a benchmark but obvs didn’t disclose it
     
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    Each firm may put a different emphasis on the test. Not all firms heavily depend on it.
    Perhaps best to find out how heavily BM rely on it to screen for those who go through to the next stage.
    Perhaps someone who went to a BM Open Day this year can shed light on this point...
    As other said, there's a benchmark. I don't think I've met it. Might get no ACs this year. That happened in 2019-20 as well. But 1/9 for Applied Intellect here. Maybe I'm wasting my time ultimately. Several cycles and a few ACs. Sure, people have had less. But still, I'm unsure about everything. I also have autism. I do think that impacts empathy. Something the Applied Intellect part tests. I'm going to take a break.
     
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    As other said, there's a benchmark. I don't think I've met it. Might get no ACs this year. That happened in 2019-20 as well. But 1/9 for Applied Intellect here. Maybe I'm wasting my time ultimately. Several cycles and a few ACs. Sure, people have had less. But still, I'm unsure about everything. I also have autism. I do think that impacts empathy. Something the Applied Intellect part tests. I'm going to take a break.
    Hey, it’s a shame that applications haven’t gone your way yet. But there will be a firm that wants you, and when that happens the process will be enjoyable and progress quickly! It’s definitely a marathon not a sprint so try to stay strong! (Also convincing myself here ahaha )
     
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    As other said, there's a benchmark. I don't think I've met it. Might get no ACs this year. That happened in 2019-20 as well. But 1/9 for Applied Intellect here. Maybe I'm wasting my time ultimately. Several cycles and a few ACs. Sure, people have had less. But still, I'm unsure about everything. I also have autism. I do think that impacts empathy. Something the Applied Intellect part tests. I'm going to take a break.
    Heya, I wanted to chime into this conversation.

    I don’t want you to beat yourself up over these results as they do not define you! I knew someone last cycle who score high intellect and high numerical for reed smith and was still rejected. I’ve progressed with firms where I’ve had average intellect and those who have had ‘high’ haven’t.

    Being neurodiverse throughout this process is tough and I sympathise with you wholeheartedly. There are firms out there who make accommodations to those who state their disabilities. I aim to be transparent in my applications about any adjustments I may or may not need as this can vary. Ultimately you don’t want to work at a firm that doesn’t take into account the difficulties you may have with certain tasks.

    Please don’t give up now it’s still early days! You cannot rule out a rejection soo early. You still have soo many firms to hear back from as well as apply to if you wish. x​
     

    bangarangbass39

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    Each firm may put a different emphasis on the test. Not all firms heavily depend on it.
    Perhaps best to find out how heavily BM rely on it to screen for those who go through to the next stage.
    Perhaps someone who went to a BM Open Day this year can shed light on this point...
    They said that once you’ve passed you’ve passed. They review your application holistically but it weighs very little in the grand scheme of things. GR placed greater emphasis on the AC, as you’d expect.

    Bear in mind each stage is about whittling down the sea of applicants. Everyone is competent enough to do the job in the eyes of the recruiter, they just need a way to crunch down who gets through and who doesn’t. It might not feel fair but honestly it’s a decent enough way of choosing candidates.

    It’s either that or they do a lottery system like they do in the Netherlands for medical programmes; that is something i can’t wait for!

    I got 9,6,6,6 and excelled on the verbal section.
     
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    Does anyone know the Goodwin application questions and can just type it out here please? Wanted to get it sorted first before having to fill out the rest of the form

    Hiya @TheInevitableTCholder2024/25🙏

    Have just looked through their online application form and found the following:

    1. Why are you applying to Goodwin (100 words)
    2. What is your personal motivation for seeking a career in corporate/commercial law? (100 words)
    3. What do you believe are two key qualities of a successful solicitor? How have you demonstrated these qualities in your education and/or experience to date? (300 words)
    4. Which other firms are you applying to and why? (200 words)
    5. Please briefly summarise anything else that you would like to add which you think is relevant to your application. This can be positions of responsibility, extra-curricular activities and achievements or academic awards or scholarships. (200 words)
    6. Discuss a commercial issue that has particularly interested you. Why did it capture your attention, and what impact could it have on the legal sector? (300 words)

    Hope this helps and good luck!
     

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