TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Andrei Radu

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When an application asks 'Why have you decided to pursue a career in Commercial Law? 250 words' how do I answer this, is it just why commercial law or does it have to be specific? The next question is why Reed smith in particular, so I thought maybe being specific isn't entirely necessary?
I think generally if the question is just framed as a simple 'Why commercial law?' one there is no need to integrate 'why this firm' elements as well. In fact, I think it is advisable not to do so, as you risk muddling your points and thus reducing focus and clarity. Since in this case there is also a subsequent 'Why the firm' question, it is definitely better to keep the points entirely separate.
 
Hi @pleasepleaseplease I agree with @Jessica Booker's points, and I expect @Ram Sabaratnam and @Amma Usman will also have very valuable inputs. To elaborate on how I think you could go about making the 'past-focused' why the firm reasons 'future-focused' distinction:
  • Some reasons are inherently either past or future focused: if you mention history and prestige or past mandates, that is by its nature a past-focused type of reason. If you mention firm strategy or innovation instead, that is by its nature a future-focused reason.
  • In other cases, you can talk about the same fundamental motivations in both a past and future focused manner. For instance, if one of your motivations is the firm's strength in one practice area, you could firstly discuss how the firm has grew the practice over years - what rankings and market recognition have they historically achieved, have they grow teams sizes, won new clients and mandates, improved revenues and so on. Subsequently, in the second answer you can focus on what the firm is looking to do with the practice in the future - are they looking to generally grow it and if so how, and in particular, are they looking to grow it in particular sectors or in specific geographies?
  • In the second answer, you are also invited to discuss the 'why you' or 'fit' element a lot more - as such, you could concentrate on explaining your relevant experiences and achievements in a lot more depth.
  • In your second answer, you are also invited to discuss what you think you could do in the firm - this is potentially a good opportunity to show off a bit of your commercial awareness. You could write about (i) what types of typical tasks and workstreams you would be excited to be involved in; and (ii) what predicted future developments about the work the firm is doing is exciting for you.
  • Finally, the second question specifically directs you to discussing culture and values. As such, even if you do not identify anything special enough about it to merit framing it as a unique selling point reason, you should still consider discussing your overall fit with it. Thus, it may be better not to write a lot about culture/values in the first answer and focus on it in the second one.
If you follow all of these pointers, I think you should be able to minimize overlap and repetition. Finally, I will also emphasize that you do not need to reach the maximum word count limit in either section. 1500 words is very high, especially given the natural commonalities of the two questions. I think it is likely that the firm is also trying to test you on your ability to be concise and to the point even when not restricted in this regard - as for instance when drafting a contract or a memo, there are no word limits but it is still essential to avoid verbosity. Hence, I would advise you to observe the same norms of brevity in your writing style as if you were writing a response for an application form question with a much lower word count cap.
Thanks Andrei, this very helpful! I really appreciate it. The limit is 1500 characters, I don't know what I'd do if it was 1500 words hahaha
 
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Hi! If a firm asks the same application question for a vacation scheme and an open day (achievements and extracurricular activities), is it okay to copy and paste the successful answer?
Hi @molak202 the short answer I would give you is no. There's two main reasons for that. Firstly, applications for a VS are significantly more competitive than for an open day and as such the standards recruiters hold your answers to will be commensurately higher. What makes for a good enough answer to be admitted to an open day in many cases will not be good enough for progressing past the first stage in a VS application. Secondly, firms like candidates who are looking to constantly improve. This is especially the case if in the meanwhile you have attended an open day and should therefore have many further insights and interactions to mention.

Finally, in the unlikely case you do not find many substantive points to add/change or significant improvements to make in your writing style and structure, I still think you should rephrase some parts of your answer. You definitely do not want your VS application to be flag as an identical copy of an open day application, as some recruiters could interpret it as a lack of effort on your part.
 
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Does anyone know if Hill Dickinson sponsors international students?

This is from the application form- "Please be aware that we are unable to employ you unless you have the right to work in the UK or the location to which you are applying at the date the role commences and for the duration of the contract".

@Jessica Booker
 

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