TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Ram Sabaratnam

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I need a little clarification pls, as a non-uk law graduate (so not QLD) if i do the SQE and satisfy the 2 years QWE, does this mean if I get a job I wont be qualified to advise on anything relating to English Law. Im basically trying to understand what the effect of not doing the PGDL will have on me.

Heya @Simi.O

@Jessica Booker may have more to say here, but with the new SQE route, as a non-UK law graduate, you won't need to complete the PGDL. The SQE pathway was designed to allow candidates from various academic backgrounds (including non-law graduates) to qualify as solicitors. The SQE1 and SQE2 exams are aimed at covering the necessary foundations of English law and skills for practice. You may nevertheless still want to do a PGDL, because it can be good preparation for passing the SQE. If you pass both SQE1 and SQE2, meet the QWE requirement (and assuming you fulfil the character and suitability assessment by the SRA), you’ll be qualified to practice English law as a solicitor in England and Wales.

Again, the PGDL is no longer necessary because the SQE exams themselves are structured to assess your competency in English law, but you may still want to do the PGDL to help you prepare.
 
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I need a little clarification pls, as a non-uk law graduate (so not QLD) if i do the SQE and satisfy the 2 years QWE, does this mean if I get a job I wont be qualified to advise on anything relating to English Law. Im basically trying to understand what the effect of not doing the PGDL will have on me.
You do not need to do the PGDL to qualify and work as a lawyer in England and Wales - it is no longer a requirement as a qualifying law degree no longer exists if you want to be a solicitor. You just need any degree level qualification (in any subject).

The PGDL will give you the foundation of knowledge to set you up for the SQE assessments though - and this is why many firms are still asking their future trainees to complete the course. However, it is not complusory from a regulatory perspective.
 

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Hey guys,

Thought I’d post this here as a little cycle recap so far.

11 WVS applications, 1 direct TC.

Six ACs, One WVS offer (Simmons), TC offer from Slaughter and May.

This was my first cycle, and this forum has been invaluable in helping me to prepare for applications. I’ve really enjoyed talking with and meeting many of you over the last few months.

If anyone wants any advice, tips, or anything at all, please send me a message! I’m happy to help others in the same way that so many of you have been so useful for me throughout this cycle so far.

Best of luck to you all!
please, expect a dm from me cause i need to know how you did all of this cause this is sooo impressive omg. congratulations!!
 

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Hiya @AS24

@Andrei Radu and @Amma Usman would also have their own views on this, but having answered this question in past applications, I approached it by focusing on the various ways I researched and explored the legal profession, rather than use it as an occasion to specifically answer why working at an international law firm appealed to me. My hope was that, in answering the question in the way I did, it would become clear to a reader that my interest in the profession was genuine. In particular, I often divided my answer to this question into three main parts.

First, I explained how I regularly read industry-leading publications like Chambers UK, Legal 500, and The Lawyer. These resources helped me understand different firms’ strengths, their practice areas, and key industry developments, giving me a broader view of the legal landscape and the types of work I’d encounter as a solicitor. It also helped me understand things like the significance of certain firms' expansion decisions or why it might have been a big deal that they were able to poach partners at other firms.

Next, I highlighted my efforts to attend open days and insight events. These experiences were invaluable for helping me "connect" and find mentors and friends in senior lawyers and other trainees, whose insights brought to life how their work shapes client outcomes and the collaborative nature of international law. When discussing this particular way of deepening my knowledge of the profession, I shared how these open day and insight scheme interactions solidified my appreciation for specific practice areas and also for the variation in working/business cultures found at different firms.

Lastly, I discussed the practical exposure I gained through vacation schemes (including virtual schemes through Forage). These experiences allowed me to handle tasks and documents similar to those performed by trainee solicitors, giving me a hands-on understanding of day-to-day responsibilities that junior lawyers typically have to shoulder. Such opportunities also gave me the confidence and reassurance I needed at such an early stage in my career

Overall, I found that by organising my answer this way, I could show that I took a well-rounded approach, using multiple avenues to deepen my knowledge and enthusiasm for a legal career at an international firm. Again, this is just one way of potentially answering this question and I'm sure the other community assistants might have their own distinct insights here. Hope this helps :)
Thank you @Ram Sabaratnam you are always so detailed and full of knowledge :)
 
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I’m a bit crazy about HSF as I’ve attended all their events and loved my time during the social mobility open day. I’ve honestly gone stir crazy over the firm - after my research and prior interactions. I could write a disso about HSF. ( and I know there’s no perfect firm)

They rejected me for disputes open day… it’s really hit me hard, harder than any heartbreak I’ve had.

Has anyone been in a similar position and been successful with a vac scheme/TC application .
 
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I’m a bit crazy about HSF as I’ve attended all their events and loved my time during the social mobility open day. I’ve honestly gone stir crazy over the firm - after my research and prior interactions. I could write a disso about HSF. ( and I know there’s no perfect firm)

They rejected me for disputes open day… it’s really hit me hard, harder than any heartbreak I’ve had.

Has anyone been in a similar position and been successful with a vac scheme/TC application .
I think you were rejected because you had already attended an open-day (social mobility). They’re probably thinking “this person knows soo much about us already what more do they want” 😁 start prepping your VS application and pour that love into the application questions.

I don’t think their online assessment is hard. So perfect the application as many pass the test and not the application review.

I attended an open day and I’m scared to write my VS application as I have a lot of information I want to pass the application review. The pressure is on
 
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I think you were rejected because you had already attended an open-day (social mobility). They’re probably thinking “this person knows soo much about us already what more do they want” 😁 start prepping your VS application and pour that love into the application questions.

I don’t think their online assessment is hard. So perfect the application as many pass the test and not the application review.

I attended an open day and I’m scared to write my VS application as I have a lot of information I want to pass the application review. The pressure is on
I think your right

In my open day application, I referenced my learnings from the open day, inside the headlines event, and a conversation with a trainee, and then developed the points and linked it back to me and wrote a sentence or two about what else I wanted to learn about from the disputes open day.

I also agree with you on the point about having so much information on the firm and then having to write the application.


( when I was 18) I was all about the money and what firms paid the highest and since growing up a bit I’ve had time to explore my interests and my list of firms has changed - I used to only shortlist the highest paying salary firms on legal cheek and now I don’t care if one firm is paying 90k rather than 180k. Now I’m going with my heart and my interests.

Thank you for your kind words and support, it means a lot! :)
 

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Hi guys! Quick question - for Irwin Mitchell's app they ask "
If you were made an offer and hadn’t completed the LPC before August 2026, you would complete the SQE alongside your training contract through a Graduate Solicitor Apprenticeship.

To be eligible for the Graduate Solicitor Apprenticeship you must have 5 GCSEs at grade C/4 or above including Maths and English.

Do you have 5 GCSEs at grade C/4 or above including Maths and English?*"

It's a yes or no box with no "other" option.
I didn't do GCSEs as I'm an international student. I did do the equivalent of GCSEs (incl. Maths, and English IGCEs).
Can I assume it's GCSEs or equivalent or should I tick no?
 

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Hi guys! Quick question - for Irwin Mitchell's app they ask "
If you were made an offer and hadn’t completed the LPC before August 2026, you would complete the SQE alongside your training contract through a Graduate Solicitor Apprenticeship.

To be eligible for the Graduate Solicitor Apprenticeship you must have 5 GCSEs at grade C/4 or above including Maths and English.

Do you have 5 GCSEs at grade C/4 or above including Maths and English?*"

It's a yes or no box with no "other" option.
I didn't do GCSEs as I'm an international student. I did do the equivalent of GCSEs (incl. Maths, and English IGCEs).
Can I assume it's GCSEs or equivalent or should I tick no?
I would assume it means GCSE or equivalent because it is phrased as an eligibility question, meaning that if you selected "no" you would probs get something telling you to withdraw your application/that you cannot apply. Then again, maybe the opportunity is just for UK graduates?
 
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Anyone still waiting post-app for Sidley wvs?
I wouldn't stress. Maybe send them an email on when you can expect to hear back. I did this as it had been nearly two months since I submitted my app and they said they would reply by late October and they did! I know there are interviews happening WC 4 Nov so they are probably still deciding who to invite. Good luck!
 

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I wouldn't stress. Maybe send them an email on when you can expect to hear back. I did this as it had been nearly two months since I submitted my app and they said they would reply by late October and they did! I know there are interviews happening WC 4 Nov so they are probably still deciding who to invite. Good luck!
I sent the same email and received the same response, yet I’m still waiting🤡🤡
 

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I’m a bit crazy about HSF as I’ve attended all their events and loved my time during the social mobility open day. I’ve honestly gone stir crazy over the firm - after my research and prior interactions. I could write a disso about HSF. ( and I know there’s no perfect firm)

They rejected me for disputes open day… it’s really hit me hard, harder than any heartbreak I’ve had.

Has anyone been in a similar position and been successful with a vac scheme/TC application .
They may have chosen not to select you given you have already done an open day with them. As a recruiter, I wouldn't necessarily see the benefit in someone attending two open days, especially if they are similar. I would prefer to give the opportunity to someone I hadn't met before. If I felt they wouldn't really benefit from attending another event, I would turn them down and just hope they would apply for the VS/TC instead.
 
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They may have chosen not to select you given you have already done an open day with them. As a recruiter, I wouldn't necessarily see the benefit in someone attending two open days, especially if they are similar. I would prefer to give the opportunity to someone I hadn't met before. If I felt they wouldn't really benefit from attending another event, I would turn them down and just hope they would apply for the VS/TC instead.
Thank you for your insight and honesty :)
 
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Hiya @tarty23

I'm sorry about the rejection - it might be difficult to appreciate this now, but it's not a reflection of what you can do and your ability to get a vacation scheme/training contract. Keep going!

In terms of feedback, many firms are simply unable to offer any at the written application stage due to the sheer volume of applications they receive. If they have stated in their email that they cannot offer feedback, then I'd avoid sending an email to them making such a request.

That being said, it's worth emphasising that your application could have been rejected for a variety of reasons, including factors outside the quality of your own application. This is something I tried to remember even when I'd given an application my best effort. Whenever I'd receive a rejection, I also tried to give the rejected application another read through to see if there was anything I might have missed or whether there might be any area that could have been improved. I always encourage applicants to do the same after a rejection. Feel free to ask any questions you might have on the forum about particular application questions, and we'll try our best to offer helpful advice :)

Best of luck with the rest of your applications!
Appreciate it! Thank you.
 

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