TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2022-23

[JessicaIsabelle]

Anyway....moving swiftly on....

So RS's "you will hear by the 10th" really means "we'll tell you on the 10th"

There's just a pit of existential dread and anxiety waiting to hear back from 6+ firms

 

[CorpLawyer00]

lol point me to these firms pls…i can’t seem to find them

why is everyone just denying the data publicly available with one google search? https://www.sra.org.uk/sra/equality-diversity/diversity-profession/diverse-legal-profession/

Again, the problem with diversity tends to be at partnership level.

 

[NotLord Denning]

This is my first time applying to all these firms; do they invite people to AC in batches?

I'm not too sure about Ashurst - this is the first time they've invited me to their AC. But based on other firms I've gotten to that stage for most of them have multiple AC dates

 

[cyberjaz1116]

@Paul - Shearman & Sterling is this true?

Would not be surprised if it is true. It is quite US-style to conduct OCI at T14 Law School. Just did not know they do the same in the UK as well.

 

[futureTS2025hopeful]

perhaps I should have specified this is what I meant in my original comment. I simply mean overrepresentation compared to the general population. I think if you start getting into this then you would have to control for an innumerable number of factors that would be impossibly hard to calculate. i.e grades, university attended etc

Hahaha bruh really started an online flame war just to flex about the paper they wrote

 

[NotLord Denning]

Anyway....moving swiftly on....

So RS's "you will hear by the 10th" really means "we'll tell you on the 10th"

There's just a pit of existential dread and anxiety waiting to hear back from 6+ firms

Yup. Past the 10th I think not on the 10th

 

[mdoeslaw]

Have some bad news for you pal

nooooooo did u get an ac for links?

 

[lawapplicant]

Common CorpSmith W. You only need to do a LinkedIn search and attend open days and you can see for yourself.
White boys are the minority there.

For those who think what I said is ludicrous

 

[NotLord Denning]

nooooooo did u get an ac for links?

nah didn't apply but I have 3 friends who did and got into ACs

 

[Denver]

yeah and ngl the comment "pale, male and stale" is a little offensive. Would not make a comment like this about other groups in regards to a diff profession.

There is also an overrepresentation of some minorities and women in a lot of firms.

sorry, probably shouldn't have used that phrase. when i was at vinson & elkins, the phrase was used by one of their female partners who basically leads the organisation 'arbitral women' (an amazing organisation for any aspiring women commercial lawyers who are interested in international arbitration). the phrase has basically been popular ever since they coined it in this publication : https://ciarb.org/media/11400/aw-thac-the-power-of-gender-parity.pdf

but apologies in advance if i caused any offence x

Yes, I have read this phrase in many academic articles relating to international arbitration, as the field is dominated by people with such characteristics and is meant to show how more developed countries continue to exploit less developed ones through legal means. The main legal representatives of more developed countries are male, white and old. The majority of arbitration judges also are male, white and old. The main legal representation for less developed countries is female (and of colour I think).
I personally find it important to have descriptive vocabulary that shows how legal, financial, and scientific institutions remain largely exclusive to male, European old people, especially in the highest positions.

 

[157gg]

folks, folks, we don't need to get into an online debate about diversity. sorry, i brought it up. let's just try to be supportive and encourage each other - the application process is challenging enough. again, my apologies for the offhand remarks x

but tbf, if we can’t bring it up here, how do we bring it up in an interview, as a trainee, as an associate, as an aspiring partner? I think it’s a valuable discussion that should always be had.

 

[bhbuygu]

nah didn't apply but I have 3 friends who did and got into ACs

Were they fast tracked for Summer?

 

[NotLord Denning]

For all those waiting, HL said we should hear by end of next week at latest (with a smiley face; I swear if they send me a smiley face before they PFO me I will just-)

Hey man if you still haven't received news like me then it's good news

 

[NotLord Denning]

Were they fast tracked for Summer?

Nope. Not campus ambassadors. TBF one was for the HK office but the other 2 are from the London one

 

[JessicaIsabelle]

Yup. Past the 10th I think not on the 10th

they said "by the 10th" though so hopefully it'll be tomorrow

 

[bhbuygu]

Nope. Not campus ambassadors. TBF one was for the HK office but the other 2 are from the London one

:/ and this was for summer?

 

[NotLord Denning]

they said "by the 10th" though so hopefully it'll be tomorrow

No news is god news as far as I'm concerned lol

 

[CorpLawyer00]

Here are the statistics then straight from your own source:

"For firms mainly doing corporate law, 18% of lawyers are from a Black, Asian or minority ethnic background – 10% are Asian and 2% are Black. ".

and on how many 'Black, Asian or minority ethnic background' people there are in the UK: "...17% and this is the figure we have used for the overall proportion of lawyers from a Black, Asian and minority ethnic background".

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So 18% in corporate law versus 17% in general population... not sure that is an overrepresentation in my books but anyway, back to discussing PFOs.

yes, this is still classified as an "overrepresentation" regardless of it being slight? also its 13% and 17%

 

[lawstudent1]

folks, folks, we don't need to get into an online debate about diversity. sorry, i brought it up. let's just try to be supportive and encourage each other - the application process is challenging enough. again, my apologies for the offhand remarks x

At least your remark gave some VS hopefuls a chance to demonstrate the extent of their critical thinking skills for the rest of us 😂

 

[law2022x]

yes, this is still classified as an "overrepresentation" regardless of it being slight?

I mean 13% versus 17% my bad - so sure it's an overrepresentation but not statistically significant in my view but let's agree to disagree.