TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2021-22 (#1)

[James Carrabino]

Thank you!

@GXA123 Glad to hear that you were able to find something useful! I wonder if users assume we have extra access to past material that they don't haha - we should probably clarify that we use the search function in the same way as all of you 😀

 

[NikkiT]

Hi, is it for 2023 or 2024 tc?

2023 - which year have you applied for?

 

[James Carrabino]

@GXA123 Glad to hear that you were able to find something useful! I wonder if users assume we have extra access to past material that they don't haha - we should probably clarify that we use the search function in the same way as all of you 😀

@GXA123 also the article that @Jessica Booker linked you too can be found by Googling 'TCLA Pinsent Masons'! Between Google and the TCLA forum search function you should be able to find everything that TCLA has to offer

 

[kmax301]

2023 - which year have you applied for?

2024!

 

[GXA123]

@GXA123 Glad to hear that you were able to find something useful! I wonder if users assume we have extra access to past material that they don't haha - we should probably clarify that we use the search function in the same way as all of you 😀

hahaha yeah I know, thank you for your help, sometimes you do direct people to the right place tho and this is what I was asking for.

 

[GXA123]

@GXA123 also the article that @Jessica Booker linked you too can be found by Googling 'TCLA Pinsent Masons'! Between Google and the TCLA forum search function you should be able to find everything that TCLA has to offer

perfect!

 

[James Carrabino]

hahaha yeah I know, thank you for your help, sometimes you do direct people to the right place tho and this is what I was asking for.

No worries at all - always happy to help! In general it should not be too tricky to find information about specific firms if it is on the forum, but we always like to assist in finding information on how to approach certain types of interview question or other advice or commercial awareness questions which have appeared over the years, especially when it is buried within the main threads!!

Just wanted to make sure you know how to make the most of the forum because I didn't myself when I first started using it 😊

 

[GXA123]

No worries at all - always happy to help! In general it should not be too tricky to find information about specific firms if it is on the forum, but we always like to assist in finding information on how to approach certain types of interview question or other advice or commercial awareness questions which have appeared over the years, especially when it is buried within the main threads!!

Just wanted to make sure you know how to make the most of the forum because I didn't myself when I first started using it 😊

Appreciate it! thanks to everyone for always being extremely helpful.

 

[Asil Ahmad]

Hi @GXA123 - if you are looking for specific threads/content, my advice is to use the search function on the forums and then use the "search title only function" option to find relevant threads

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I have used this so many times in this cycle and it is so helpful for posts from previous years still accessible on the forum.

 

[amzey2]

Would anyone who previously did a Debevoise & Plimpton AC be willing to answer some questions I had? Thx a lot in advance!

 

[mome101]

Is there anyone else who hasn't heard from Shearman? I'm nervous about the possible PFO oooof

 

[Laurenbt2110]

If I got sent an assessment at lunchtime on Friday and I have 3 calendar days to complete it, does that mean tonight at mid higher, tomorrow at lunchtime or tomorrow at midnight?

 

[JohnDoeTCLA]

Anyone who did Morgan Lewis’ final round be willing to give some heads up? Thx!!

 

[Leightoncass]

has anyone done the VI for kennedys?

Hey! Not yet. Have you?

 

[Leightoncass]

Hi i was just wondering if you have done the VI yet? how did it go

Hi! Have you done the VI yet?

 

[NikkiT]

Has anyone been to the AC at Fieldfisher? 😅

 

[Nab]

nobody received any rejections yet so I AM SCARED

I did my AC last Monday and received an offer.

 

[vacschemesforeveryone]

Hi all, I am in the fortunate but unlucky position of having 3 summer vac scheme offers and only being able to do 2 because of the dates overlapping. Therefore, I have to ask HSF if they'd let me do the spring scheme instead of the summer one and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with HSF specifically or with law firms in general about changing schemes and whether you were allowed? I'm also not sure how to go about explaining it to them, do I tell them about my other offers etc? Thank you
@George Maxwell

 

[Jessica Booker]

Hi all, I am in the fortunate but unlucky position of having 3 summer vac scheme offers and only being able to do 2 because of the dates overlapping. Therefore, I have to ask HSF if they'd let me do the spring scheme instead of the summer one and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with HSF specifically or with law firms in general about changing schemes and whether you were allowed? I'm also not sure how to go about explaining it to them, do I tell them about my other offers etc? Thank you
@George Maxwell

This happens all the time with law firms. They are having this conversation with people every cycle, so the firm will be very used to having this conversation.

Explain you have multiple schemes and that you are seeing whether firms can offer alternative dates. Firms are used to people having multiple schemes - it is not an issue.

Be prepared for HSF to say they can’t move you though and that you may have to turn down one of your three schemes. Even if I’m the past they have been able to move people around, it doesn’t necessarily mean they can do it this year - the scheme could already be oversubscribed, they could already have a waiting list of people looking to move etc.

 

[George Maxwell]

Hi all, I am in the fortunate but unlucky position of having 3 summer vac scheme offers and only being able to do 2 because of the dates overlapping. Therefore, I have to ask HSF if they'd let me do the spring scheme instead of the summer one and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with HSF specifically or with law firms in general about changing schemes and whether you were allowed? I'm also not sure how to go about explaining it to them, do I tell them about my other offers etc? Thank you
@George Maxwell

Hi @vacschemesforeveryone,

Thank you for the question! Congratulations too for getting three vacation scheme offers. I am aware that this result will reflect a lot of hard work, so really well done(!).

Before I start my answer , I want to caveat the following by saying that this really is my opinion. This is not the sort of thing for which there is a right answer, but my thoughts below demonstrate how I would deal with this. Unfortunately I cannot guarantee that this will yield a positive outcome etc.

That being said, I will answer your question in two parts. First I will speak about deferring vacation schemes. Second I will touch on HSF.

1. My advice would be to be as open and honest as possible with the firm. In my experience, honesty is always appreciated. In addition, it avoids the possibility of the firm finding out later. It also prevents uneasiness (for you) in knowing what you can/should say (given what you think you have told them) to the firm in the future about your experiences or movements.

If it were me, I would send the Graduate Recruitment team an email. I would include the details of each of my vacation schemes. I would be open and explain that I found myself in the fortunate position that I had been offered three vacation scheme places and would like to discuss options with them.

I would then detail the various reasons why I wanted to complete three vacation schemes/the firm to transfer me to another scheme. I would emphasise that this does not mean that I value HSF/the offer from them any less, but that it is the only way in which I could feasibly complete all three schemes (bear in mind, I would only say this if this really were the case!).

Legitimate reasons, in my opinion would include: making an informed decision, money, networking opportunities and professional development opportunities resulting from the schemes. I would really encourage you to remove/add your own reasons to these in accordance with your own thoughts.

I would also offer to speak on the phone about my predicament to fully explain my reasons too.

I do not think that a firm will not withdraw your offer for asking. HSF may just say no. However, at least this way you have not been dishonest (you have shown integrity) and you have done all you can to explore all the available options. By doing this you are not being rude (the firm is a commercial entity and Graduate Recruitment will not be personally offended you asked), but in many ways mature and considered.

2. HSF are a fantastic firm. I felt like I genuinely fit in during my vacation scheme.

The Graduate Recruitment team, along with the rest of the firm are, in my experience, understanding people who would appreciate honesty (and the maturity that being honest often requires!).

If you would like to know anything further about the firm, please do tag me! 💪