TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2024-5

[jacksollaf]

Hey everyone; does anyone have any advice for DAC's critical thinking post-vi

 

[Chris Brown]

Applied to White & Case's VS. Still heard nothing after applying, however. Should I apply for direct TC? Is that possible in this cycle? Anyone got experience of that here? Thanks in advance for your help.

White & Case direct TC route is non-rolling and is open until July so you’d be waiting really long before getting a response.

Maybe they are still considering your application for the VS. Don’t rule yourself out just yet. 🙂

I have seen people on this forum that had applied for winter VS back in Sept/Oct and got invited to AC for a Spring or Summer VS instead.

 

[Kawasaki Kisen Kaisha]

Kennedys AC!

 

[TC seeker]

White & Case direct TC route is non-rolling and is open until July so you’d be waiting really long before getting a response.

Maybe they are still considering your application for the VS. Don’t rule yourself out just yet. 🙂

I have seen people on this forum that had applied for winter VS back in Sept/Oct and got invited to AC for a Spring or Summer VS instead.

Usually how many trainees will White & Case recruit from the direct TC route? I feel like most of their TC are from the vacation scheme..

 

[Chris Brown]

Usually how many trainees will White & Case recruit from the direct TC route? I feel like most of their TC are from the vacation scheme..

They say it’s around 80% from VS. They take on up to 50 trainees a year so 40 from VS. That leaves 10 slots for direct TC.

They have around 25 spaces per VS so 75 to 80 in total. That leaves a 50% conversion rate from VS to TC.

 

[24aa2001]

Kennedys AC!

Congratulations!! For which one??

 

[Amma Usman]

SH’s why law and why the firm questions are both 600 words. Would it be necessary to format that with introductions and conclusions. 600 words is kind of long but I wouldn’t think it’s long enough for that. @Amma Usman @Jessica Booker

In situations like this, I typically included a sort of thesis statement at the start. I would divide it into roughly two paragraphs. One on why CL, the other on why SH. I would start the paragraph with something like “I am drawn to a career in commercial law for multiple reason but will focus on: X, Y, Z. In the next paragraph, I would write something like I am drawn to SH for mainly X reasons: X, Y, Z. Then, I will take each of the three components in turn and address them appropriately, backed up with real life examples.

Doing this, even in a short sentence at the start, helps signpost your reader and makes everything flow, especially given such a long word count.

With regards the last bit of your question, I don’t see a need to include a conclusion in this case.

 

[Amma Usman]

Could really use some urgent help - was just about to do the Clyde and co digital assessment but I got locked out of my cappfinity account. I don’t know what to do. Anyone have any idea what I can do right now?

I would email Grad Rec with a screenshot of the issues you’re facing and a detailed description of the situation. If you also can’t try logging in after attempting for like three times, it’s worth highlighting this in the email too. This has happened to me before and firm’s are usually understanding in such situations - I would not worry too much.

 

[andrecsaa]

I am sorry to hear about the PFOs. Writing applications is like a muscle that constantly needs flexing. I assure you that despite those PFOs, you would have improved your writing skills - and that’s the most important thing beyond those rejection emails.

Another thing is that if you genuinely aren’t interested in the contentious practices as much, then that’s fine. It just requires you to apply to more transactional-focused law firms, since showcasing that link would be easier given your broader interests and experiences. That said, early on in your career I don’t recommend throwing away exploring that side too (this is me talking beyond the application stage). When the time comes, you can choose to do more rotations in transactional law, but at least one in a contentious seat. I have spoken to many lawyers who have mentioned that their qualification options shocked them. However, it all boils down to personal preference on your part.

Back to the topic of discussion. If you’re comfortable, you could post your answers to why law and why X firm on the forum, and I could review them and provide feedback.

Thank you for your kind words!

Actually, it’s quite the opposite. I’m more drawn to contentious work due to my background as a foreign-qualified lawyer (civil law country - which means PGDL + SQE + TC). I’m also open to transactional seats, particularly in banking and finance. Although I haven’t worked in these practices in my home country, I did study some regulatory and banking modules during my LLM.

I’m not sure whether firms tend to prefer candidates who show more interest in transactional seats over litigation. The firms I’m targeting have been ranked highly in commercial litigation and corporate crime and investigations, with strong reputations for their work on recent leading litigation cases (e.g., Willkie, AG, Macfarlanes, Dentons, HL, Fieldfisher, NRF, WC).

A member kindly took the time to look one of my applications and gave me some honest and valuable feedback. I will refine the remaining applications, and if things don’t work out this cycle, I will consider signing up for the review service, or post here.

 

[Jessica Booker]

Hi everyone,

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Many thanks

Jess

 

[andrecsaa]

Very happy for you congrats! My tips would be to focus on aligning your answers with the firms strengths. Feel free to DM me if you want more tips

Thank you so much!

I looked at their values on the website before the test. I got collaboration and resilience as my top strengths, and client centricity as an area for development.

 

[24aa2001]

If other people received an AC today and I didn't does this mean PFO?

 

[Lawlawlaw2]

Does DWF send VIs in batches? Or if we did not receive one today means it’s a PFO?

 

[Tintin06]

Freshfields issuing a SJT randomly with no prior announcement is so strange. Those who attended the application masterclass will agree that this was not mentioned, there is no prior preparation and only those who pass will get their application reviewed.

It is a tough break, yes. Best of luck to you though. Seems like a last minute decision. Not clear how long we have. As in, three days to complete. Or it could be a week. Try to see the firm’s perspective. They get so many applicants, yearly. This helps to narrow it down.

 

[RTL]

Anyone here who applied for Kirkland's vac scheme hasn't heard anything back since submitting the application form Should I just assume PFO at this stage.

 

[sb04]

Hey, does anyone have any insights into the DWF VI that they'd be willing to share? I'm happy to trade insights in VIs for Reed Smith, Forsters, Weil, Clyde & Co, Mishcon, Simmons & Simmons, White & Case VI and AC last year, and Jones Day AC!

 

[LB24]

Kennedys AC!

Congrats! For which office?

 

[Zaidoz10]

I would email Grad Rec with a screenshot of the issues you’re facing and a detailed description of the situation. If you also can’t try logging in after attempting for like three times, it’s worth highlighting this in the email too. This has happened to me before and firm’s are usually understanding in such situations - I would not worry too much.

Thank you @Amma Usman! Thankfully I was able to access the account shortly after posting that on the thread. Thank you for your advice though!!

 

[hmevey]

Hi there. You can touch on anything really, from ESG, energy, AI, and the likes. There is no right answer, only your ability to connect it to the commercial and legal worlds, as this is what will help demonstrate your commercial awareness. There is also a tendency for applicants to talk a lot about topics like AI, but I presume it would not be much of an issue if you mention a common topic, provided you expand on it adequately. Another thing is that you do not have to equally split the word count, but I recommend doing so (or somewhat closely) to ensure you touch on each topic in depth.

I’ve linked an example of how I would personally approach this question in the context of ESG:

One significant challenge law firms will face over the next five years is managing the escalating demand for environmental, social, and governance (ESG)-related legal services amidst rapidly evolving regulations and stakeholder expectations. Governments worldwide are introducing stricter environmental legislation, such as carbon reduction targets and mandatory sustainability reporting, while investors and clients demand greater transparency and accountability in corporate operations.

For law firms, the challenge lies in providing clients with proactive and commercially viable solutions to meet these obligations while avoiding reputational and legal risks. This requires deep expertise in emerging ESG frameworks, sector-specific regulations, and litigation risks, as well as the ability to handle the increasing complexity of cross-border ESG issues. Moreover, firms must address their own ESG commitments to attract talent and clients who prioritize sustainability and ethical practices. Balancing the cost of internal transformation with maintaining profitability will test firms' strategic adaptability.

Law firms that effectively integrate ESG advisory into their practice and demonstrate leadership in this space will secure a competitive advantage, but those that fail to keep pace risk losing relevance in an increasingly sustainability-conscious market.

Thank you so much! I think i will just talk about two and try and go in depth. Would you recommend any resources to help research this question? I listen to the FT news briefing everyday but i still do not think my commercial awareness is good enough for the applications !

 

[Mug Fan]

Akin Gump PFO today. Feel like I’m in a decent place overall this cycle but PFO’s still sting!