TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2022-23

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prospectiveswitcher

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Hi, quick question for @Jessica Booker

Do you know how much weight top UK / MC firms typically place on individual university module results? I got a 1st overall in a non-law degree from a top (European, non UK) university, but I have some individual module grades which are 2.2/3rd. In Europe we use the ECTS system which means some modules have different weightings, and my 3rds/2.2s are all in very low credit modules, but I'm conscious this doesn't come across when you look at them listed out uniformly. I do have some mitigating circumstances for them too, but I am starting to wonder if they are holding me back / am I wasting time with some firms?

Thought I would note also I am a career changer who graduated about 7 years ago - would this mean uni modules still looked at closely?
 

Jessica Booker

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Hi, quick question for @Jessica Booker

Do you know how much weight top UK / MC firms typically place on individual university module results? I got a 1st overall in a non-law degree from a top (European, non UK) university, but I have some individual module grades which are 2.2/3rd. In Europe we use the ECTS system which means some modules have different weightings, and my 3rds/2.2s are all in very low credit modules, but I'm conscious this doesn't come across when you look at them listed out uniformly. I do have some mitigating circumstances for them too, but I am starting to wonder if they are holding me back / am I wasting time with some firms?

Thought I would note also I am a career changer who graduated about 7 years ago - would this mean uni modules still looked at closely?
This will vary massively from firm to firm.

If they are occasional modules and a small percentage of each year, then I don’t think the occasional 2.2 is an issue. If more of them are the equivalent of thirds then this might be more of an issue.
 

CorporateCrocodile

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    If you are going to link back this question to FF work then I'd be super careful that you (1) ensure you refer to a specific case where commercial awareness was definitely one of the skills that led to success and identify specifically which part of the commercial world that needed to be aware of and (2) that you fully understand the case study you are referring to as they may want to ask about it in depth in an interview which you need to be prepared for (especially if the interviewer is in the department you are talking about!).
    Hi Laura, thanks for the advice! :)

    I just wanted to get your thoughts on something. I'm quite conscious of the fact that getting intricate details on specific firm deals can often be a bit of a Hail Mary (unless you have resources, then please suggest! :)). As an alternative to what you proposed, I was thinking about maybe name dropping one of the London office's more high profile partners and explaining how their commercial awareness has made them exceptionally successful (with tangible examples)

    Please let me know if you think this is something even worth pursuing (or if I'm overcomplicating things). I welcome any and all advice!
     

    Jessica Booker

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    Hi Laura, thanks for the advice! :)

    I just wanted to get your thoughts on something. I'm quite conscious of the fact that getting intricate details on specific firm deals can often be a bit of a Hail Mary (unless you have resources, then please suggest! :)). As an alternative to what you proposed, I was thinking about maybe name dropping one of the London office's more high profile partners and explaining how their commercial awareness has made them exceptionally successful (with tangible examples)

    Please let me know if you think this is something even worth pursuing (or if I'm overcomplicating things). I welcome any and all advice!
    I am not convinced this is the right approach. Name dropping doesn’t create good answers to this question - it is not what this question is expecting of you.
     

    RANDOTRON

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    Hi Laura, thanks for the advice! :)

    I just wanted to get your thoughts on something. I'm quite conscious of the fact that getting intricate details on specific firm deals can often be a bit of a Hail Mary (unless you have resources, then please suggest! :)). As an alternative to what you proposed, I was thinking about maybe name dropping one of the London office's more high profile partners and explaining how their commercial awareness has made them exceptionally successful (with tangible examples)

    Please let me know if you think this is something even worth pursuing (or if I'm overcomplicating things). I welcome any and all advice!
    I don't think the question is not asking you why commercial awareness makes a good lawyer at FF – IMO, if they wanted to ask you that they would have. I think you're overthinking this. In my view, what the question is really asking you is: what role does commercial awareness plays in the context of legal practice (ie, why is commercially aware important for a lawyer). There's no one universal right way to answer this question.
     
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    spamelinazoid

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    Whilst still waiting for the outcome, how did everyone find Bakers AC for direct TC?
    Just wanna hear and talk about the experience to ease the nerve
    I thought it was really friendly and relaxed, but the group exercise sucked. My group didnt get through the 25 pages they gave us to read in 15 mins so we scrambled a lot to figure out what was happening. The interviews were fine
     
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