TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25
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This might be a silly question but do I need to let firms i am waiting to hear from that I’m going to be abroad the next two weeks, just in case they call (i hope) because of international call fees? I don’t want them to think i’m presuming an offer but also wouldn’t want them to incur a cost.
I've had a 30 min telephone interview with a firm while abroad without telling them about this hahah. I just figured they'd be used to it as a massive US firm
I think it is good to inform. I let a firm know that I would be visiting my family and it’s just my UK number on file and supplemented an additional number incase they needed to reach me regarding outcome. They said it was really helpful to have it in hand so there weren’t back and forth emailing about it haha
#law #trainingcontract #sqe | Chris Lee | 54 comments
A couple of law graduates have reached out to me after their training contract offers were rescinded when they failed the SQE. Most have simply received an email to communicate this and wishing them well going forwards; but one person (Amy) also received a letter immediately afterwards...
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Does anyone know which firm this could have been?
does anybody have a successful experience with Goldman Sachs for a paralegal position? Any advice would be much appreciated!!
I was in the same situation a few years ago. I got an offer and the firm called my UK number but I was doing my year abroad so wasn’t using that number. They just emailed me immediately telling me to call them back. I doubt they’d rescind your offer if you missed 1 call.
#law #trainingcontract #sqe | Chris Lee | 54 comments
A couple of law graduates have reached out to me after their training contract offers were rescinded when they failed the SQE. Most have simply received an email to communicate this and wishing them well going forwards; but one person (Amy) also received a letter immediately afterwards...www.linkedin.com
Does anyone know which firm this could have been?
It says "She has lost a training contract worth income of £90k+ over two years." So, not the Magic Circle firms because I imagine 2 years of salaries exceeds 90K for them. Unlikely a silver circle too for the same reasons.
What's left of the top 20 firms? Genuinely curious to know which firm this is...
has anyone heard anything re Hill Dickinson AC invites (besides holding email)??
Honestly is this even real or is the bloke just engagement farming?#law #trainingcontract #sqe | Chris Lee | 54 comments
A couple of law graduates have reached out to me after their training contract offers were rescinded when they failed the SQE. Most have simply received an email to communicate this and wishing them well going forwards; but one person (Amy) also received a letter immediately afterwards...www.linkedin.com
Does anyone know which firm this could have been?
Literally zero reason not to name the firm.
I received an offer for a vacation scheme last Thursday afternoon, and the firm asked me to reply before Monday. I replied the same day confirming my attendance, but I haven’t heard anything back since. The scheme starts on 14th April. Should I follow up today or it’s normal not to receive a response yet?
The top 20 is dominated by Magic and Silver Circle firms which all pay £100-£110k to their trainees and offer grants of £15-20k. It can’t be HL or NRF either as they offer similar amounts to future trainees. That’s at least 10 firms out of question, which leaves 10. 🤔
It is unlikely to be Addleshaw Goddard, CMS, Simmons & Simmons, Taylor Wessing, Osborne Clarke or Pinsent Masons as they also offer around £100k+ to trainees across their training contract. All these firms are top 20 UK headquartered law firms. The only exception is if OP’s TC was for a regional office, in which case it could be Osborne Clarke or Simmons & Simmons (Reading and/or Bristol). 🙂
The only firms it could be is one of these firms: Bird & Bird, Clyde & Co, Eversheds Sutherland or RPC. I suspect it’s probably Bird & Bird or RPC that the OP is referring to. These firms are all also in the top 20. 😮
It says the maintenance grant was in excess of 5 figures. I think this implies it was probably over £10k but below £15k, at least for the SQE grant itself. These firms have a SQE grant between that range, and/or trainee salaries above £90,000 but below £100,000 (see below):
1: Bird & Bird trainee salary is £47,000 (1st year) and £52,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £99,000. Their SQE grant is £15,000.
2: Clyde & Co trainee salary is £47,000 (1st year) and £50,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £97,000. Their SQE grant is around £10,000.
3: Eversheds Sutherland trainee salary is £46,000 (1st year) and £50,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £96,000. Their SQE grant is £7,000.
4: RPC trainee salary is £46,000 (1st year) and £50,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £96,000. Their SQE grant is £12,000.
Whichever firm it is, I think it’s really unfair to not give the person at least 1 chance to retake the SQE. To then demand the cost of fees back despite being such a major UK firm, is pretty surprising tbh. 🫤
It is unlikely to be Addleshaw Goddard, CMS, Simmons & Simmons, Taylor Wessing, Osborne Clarke or Pinsent Masons as they also offer around £100k+ to trainees across their training contract. All these firms are top 20 UK headquartered law firms. The only exception is if OP’s TC was for a regional office, in which case it could be Osborne Clarke or Simmons & Simmons (Reading and/or Bristol). 🙂
The only firms it could be is one of these firms: Bird & Bird, Clyde & Co, Eversheds Sutherland or RPC. I suspect it’s probably Bird & Bird or RPC that the OP is referring to. These firms are all also in the top 20. 😮
It says the maintenance grant was in excess of 5 figures. I think this implies it was probably over £10k but below £15k, at least for the SQE grant itself. These firms have a SQE grant between that range, and/or trainee salaries above £90,000 but below £100,000 (see below):
1: Bird & Bird trainee salary is £47,000 (1st year) and £52,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £99,000. Their SQE grant is £15,000.
2: Clyde & Co trainee salary is £47,000 (1st year) and £50,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £97,000. Their SQE grant is around £10,000.
3: Eversheds Sutherland trainee salary is £46,000 (1st year) and £50,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £96,000. Their SQE grant is £7,000.
4: RPC trainee salary is £46,000 (1st year) and £50,000 (2nd year). This adds up to £96,000. Their SQE grant is £12,000.
Whichever firm it is, I think it’s really unfair to not give the person at least 1 chance to retake the SQE. To then demand the cost of fees back despite being such a major UK firm, is pretty surprising tbh. 🫤
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Honestly - no big firm is gonna be rescinding TC offers
Only Mickey Mouse firms we’ve never heard of will be let’s be real
Clifford Chance and Macfarlanes have rescinded offers in the past. Last year, I’m sure there were people who were told that they had failed the SQE but they had actually passed. Despite that, their TC offers were rescinded. They were future trainees at big city law firms. I think it’s a policy that TC offers get rescinded, but most law firms are generally lenient about it and allow at least 1 retake. @Jessica Booker will know more about rescinding offers and whether it’s common.
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They were probably applicants who flunked it hard - unless we are saying these firms rescind all TC offers?
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Clifford change rescind a couple TCs for those who failed the SQE?
Yes this is the problem with anonymous posts and one-sided accounts: the firm might know that the candidate didn't bother turning up to classes (the universities provide them with this data), and decided to rescind as a result of this.
Hi! Not heard anything yet but was wondering what the second stage was? the HireVue interview? Thank you in advance
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