Hey guys, I did my W&C VI on the 2nd Jan (9 days ago). I've seen some people have heard back but no clue when they did their VIs. I'm going out of my mind having heard nothing (also didn't get a confirmation email to say I'd completed it but it says it's completed on their AllHires website). Is it normal to not hear back this quickly or should I expect a PFO by now?
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What I’ve learned from this forum is that there is no point stressing about W&C because they take “taking their sweet time” to a whole other level
I would say not to worry. You may not be happy with it but graduate recruitment may see positives where you see negatives
I applied within a week before the deadline and got a PFO immediately after doing the test (everyone has to do the test alongside their application). Heard they're sending out written exercise invitations (Stage 2 of the application), so it depends on when you applied? Maybe check your spam emails too, I've had PFOs go there sometimes
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Hi there,
Thanks for the question.
As you can imagine, the difference in why law and why commercial law lies in the commerce part. This is a difficult distinction to employ, largely because you need to know your experiences in and out to effectively draw a distinction that shows specific interest In CL particularly. You not only need to know your experiences well , but your journey actually. For me, taking the journey approach in interviews enabled me to show my truth - tell my story. I was able to start off by saying okay I explored this area of law, didn’t like it. I explored this next area of law and liked this and that, but not that. Then I explored business law and liked it more combined than the other areas of law. For me, I knew I wanted to be a lawyer regardless of specialisation. Studying a law degree certainly helped, but it was not the deciding factor.
Your inclusion of the mergers module course is good, but you need to be more specific. What did you learn and how did that differ from your past legal experiences. Further, why is it that one that appealed more? You may have learnt about a certain type of law, say competition law, through learning about how the Commission or CMA in the context of the UK may stop mergers due to the potential to lead to the abuse of a dominant position. As competition law is a practice within a commercial law firm, you can certainly expand on this in interviews. This is just one of the many examples on how you can go further into what you learnt to distinguish the business side of law from say… immigration or family law.
I'm still waiting! I know a few people who have been rejected so hopefully, no news is good news?
Is anyone else still in limbo for Addleshaws? Not received a PFO or a voice interview yet?
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Hey @Amakaa ,
Very well done on getting to both stages. My tips are more on soft skills.
For the telephone interview, I recommend knowing your competencies very well and avoid preparing too heavily on verbatim answers. This is because you want your answers to sound very natural. The best way to do this is to know your passions for commercial law and Akin well, such that any question you’re asked would not necessarily trip you off.
For the AC with RS, perhaps I’ll be able to provide more guidance on that once they inform you what the AC is comprised of.
My general few interview tips are as follows;
- Smile and be confident. At the end of the day, law firms are not just hiring for lawyers, they are hiring for people.
- Keep building your commercial awareness up until then. As you would have heard many times, this is a skill that needs constant developing. You do not need to spend hundreds of hours every week doing this as that would even be counter-effective. Take little strides every day to learn something knew. It would amaze you how those little industry trends or buzz words would be weaved into your interview by you, without you even knowing it. You want your commercial awareness journey to be a natural one, not a forced one as this is what would help out more through the process and beyond.
- With regards what you can ask GR, provided you have any questions on the specifics of the stage or are not clear about anything, GR would be the best to speak to. Don’t hesitate to reach out when in doubt.
- With regards what to ask Partners, don’t ask questions just for the sake of it as most times such questions tend to be those you can easily get by deep-diving into the firm‘s website. The best questions at the end of interviews are those which talk about a topic discussed in the interview itself, or an area of your interviewers specialisation you want to learn more about and why.
they say they're running multiple assessment days through January and February, and I'm aware there is a precedent where they reconsider people who apply for Winter and spring for summer. Since they haven't sent out Summer invites yet, you could very well be getting considered for Summer.
I even know people who received PFOs for Winter and then were subsequently reconsidered [without being asked] for Spring.
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