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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

theruleofno

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Jan 5, 2024
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This is what I thought. But a recent AC I did, only one other person wore a tie - and they looked great. Everyone else was button down. All of my previous ACs I’ve always been the one guy wearing a tie😭I’m scared of being that guy
Don’t be nervous. A partner can (and will) hold it against you for not wearing a tie, they will never hold anything against you for wearing one. Far better to be overdressed than under for an interview. Law is a customer (client) focused business and first impressions matter. It’s a minute difference but having a tie, or an ironed shirt can be all the difference.
 

desperateTCseeker1998

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Jan 1, 2023
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Anyone had good news ML? Have an email waiting for me that I’m sure is a PFO and I think I’m done if it is. Not that I know what I’ll do if it is, I would be a good lawyer and it’s all I want to do. I’ve had too many post interview rejections now even though I always progress post interview on standard job applications and negotiate opposite top firms on a daily basis in my job: I don’t know what I can do at this point, feels like there’s something wrong with me on a personal level.
 
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theruleofno

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Jan 5, 2024
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May I ask what year most people are in on this forum? I am a graduate and have not secured anything this cycle... should I be giving up?
Absolutely not. I have attended 5 ACs this cycle (all for elite U.S firms) and the vast majority of candidates with me were graduates, masters students or career changers. Only a handful were still in uni and those tended to be those at upper echelon unis (Oxbridge, LSE, UCL, Durham and Bristol).
 

Chris Brown

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Jul 4, 2024
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May I ask what year most people are in on this forum? I am a graduate and have not secured anything this cycle... should I be giving up?
I graduated last year (July 2024) and this is my first application cycle. As a result, I also haven’t secured anything yet (VS/TC). 🥲

There is absolutely no reason why you should give up man! Keep it pushing! The average age of an NQ is 30 in the UK, meaning on average most people aren’t starting their TC until they are 28! 🙂​
 

simplyfaith

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Feb 13, 2022
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This is definitely not a meaningless question at all. I also need to figure out what is appropriate for an interview. Does anyone have any thoughts? Please help. 🥲🥲​
It's time for another data analytics session! This data was collected from Paul, Weiss people index photos, London location.

Out of 175 listed lawyers, 57% are male. Of them:

60 are associates. 87% wore ties.
12 are counsel. 92% wore ties.
28 are partners. 50% wore ties.

Notably, no one wore a tie in the London early careers promotional material, aside one associate in a blog post. However, nearly all of them did for their index photo, aside partner Neel Sachdev. Culture and fashion shifts have led to an increased popularity in dropping the tie at opportune moments. However, the tie still retains its reputation as a statement piece and mark of professionalism.
This is what I thought. But a recent AC I did, only one other person wore a tie - and they looked great. Everyone else was button down. All of my previous ACs I’ve always been the one guy wearing a tie😭I’m scared of being that guy
Everyone else must have missed my data analytics session 🧐
 

berocca567

Standard Member
Jan 11, 2025
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I graduated last year (July 2024) and this is my first application cycle. As a result, I also haven’t secured anything yet (VS/TC). 🥲

There is absolutely no reason why you should give up man! Keep it pushing! The average age of an NQ is 30 in the UK, meaning on average most people aren’t starting their TC until they are 28! 🙂​
Thanks, me too! Do you plan on working somewhere else and reapplying next year?
 
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bangarangbass39

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Sep 13, 2023
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Absolutely not. I have attended 5 ACs this cycle (all for elite U.S firms) and the vast majority of candidates with me were graduates, masters students or career changers. Only a handful were still in uni and those tended to be those at upper echelon unis (Oxbridge, LSE, UCL, Durham and Bristol).
Agreed. My recent AC, non US/MC/SC, of our group of 5, 4 had graduated. The previous group of 5 a similar amount had also graduated.

The spread was mostly across Warwick, Bristol, Exeter, Kings, etc.
 

Chris Brown

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Jul 4, 2024
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It's time for another data analytics session! This data was collected from Paul, Weiss people index photos, London location.

Out of 175 listed lawyers, 57% are male. Of them:

60 are associates. 87% wore ties.
12 are counsel. 92% wore ties.
28 are partners. 50% wore ties.

Notably, no one wore a tie in the London early careers promotional material, aside one associate in a blog post. However, nearly all of them did for their index photo, aside partner Neel Sachdev. Culture and fashion shifts have led to an increased popularity in dropping the tie at opportune moments. However, the tie still retains its reputation as a statement piece and mark of professionalism.

Everyone else must have missed my data analytics session 🧐
You are actually the GOAT frfr! This is very informative. 10/10 for outstanding research and data analytics skills, plus extra bonus points for extensive knowledge of Paul, Weiss’ lawyers in London. 🤞🐐​
 
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bangarangbass39

Legendary Member
Sep 13, 2023
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It's time for another data analytics session! This data was collected from Paul, Weiss people index photos, London location.

Out of 175 listed lawyers, 57% are male. Of them:

60 are associates. 87% wore ties.
12 are counsel. 92% wore ties.
28 are partners. 50% wore ties.

Notably, no one wore a tie in the London early careers promotional material, aside one associate in a blog post. However, nearly all of them did for their index photo, aside partner Neel Sachdev. Culture and fashion shifts have led to an increased popularity in dropping the tie at opportune moments. However, the tie still retains its reputation as a statement piece and mark of professionalism.

Everyone else must have missed my data analytics session 🧐
Crucial demographic missing, trainees.
 

Chris Brown

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Jul 4, 2024
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Jessica Booker

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Aug 1, 2019
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This is what I thought. But a recent AC I did, only one other person wore a tie - and they looked great. Everyone else was button down. All of my previous ACs I’ve always been the one guy wearing a tie😭I’m scared of being that guy
It’s very easy to take a tie off and put it in a pocket or bag. I’d generally say wear and tie and you can take it off if you feel like the odd one out.
 

Jessica Booker

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Aug 1, 2019
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May I ask what year most people are in on this forum? I am a graduate and have not secured anything this cycle... should I be giving up?
If I remember correctly we have seen people secure TCs after their seventh cycle.

I would say 2-3 cycles is the most common. Enough people do secure something in their first VS/TC cycle, but even many of them had technically been applying to first year programmes, so it could be argued that they are actually in their second cycle when they get around to VS applications.
 

Kakaboo

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Dec 5, 2024
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Hello, does anyone know of any firms that accept direct TC applications (that are still open) when you haven’t done a vacation scheme? I’ve done other law related pro bono work etc but this is my first round applying for TC’s. TIA
 

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