TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[Tcvspfo]

Th

Yes I received this a few weeks ago

Thank you mate and good luck on the AC.

 

[Tcvspfo]

PWC VI! Any insights?

Will pm you about any insights

 

[saminoriya]

Ashurst PFO after 2 months of waiting

 

[g.cl.2020344]

Ashurst PFO after 2 months of waiting

same I applied the week it opened and just got rejected.. what a waste of time

 

[g.cl.2020344]

I'm assuming we can't apply for their spring/summer now?

 

[Amma Usman]

Describe how you think the innovative developments taking place in the legal industry will change the role of a commercial lawyer at Dentons. Please outline your research and reference the sources you used to inform your opinion. Max 250 words

How should i structure the answer to this question and how should I go about the referencing part of the question?

Hey @-legal- ,

Thanks for the question!

Initially, I assumed “innovative developments” would mean focusing solely on technology, particularly AI. But as with any law firm application question, it’s essential to unpack the wording carefully. Here, “innovative developments” could encompass everything from the impacts of AI to the evolution of legal services and shifting client needs. Off the top of my head, here are a few innovative developments shaping commercial law at firms like Dentons:


1. AI and Automation: This is a major development that’s reshaping the way lawyers work. While many candidates might mention AI, it’s important not to over-focus on it but to recognize its broader impact. AI tools streamline routine tasks, particularly in contract review, allowing lawyers to focus on higher-value work. Dentons’ recent release of an AI-powered contract review bot is a perfect example of this innovation in action. Tools like ThoughtRiver and Kira are also widely used across firms to quickly sift through volumes of contracts and flag risks, which is an area Dentons has invested in heavily. Such advancements let commercial lawyers dedicate more time to client-facing, strategic work, ultimately contributing to long-term revenue growth. See the [full article on Dentons’ AI bot](https://www.dentons.com/en/about-de...s-launches-ai-powered-contract-automation-bot) for more on this.


2. Sector-Specific Client Expansion: An interesting development is the shift in client focus, especially with private equity houses investing in sectors like retail and healthcare. This has significant implications for commercial lawyers, as it requires them to gain in-depth knowledge of these specific industries, adapting to a range of new challenges and regulatory frameworks. For instance, advising on compliance or intellectual property in the healthcare sector demands specialized expertise that wasn’t as central for commercial lawyers before. As firms like Dentons expand their client base across these sectors, commercial lawyers are expected to develop an increasingly broad set of skills and become well-versed in emerging industries.


3. Alternative Legal Services and Flexible Delivery Models: Another innovative trend in the legal industry is the shift toward alternative legal service providers (ALSPs) and flexible delivery models. Dentons’ own Nextlaw Labs, an innovation hub, exemplifies this shift, as it allows Dentons to explore new service models and leverage technology to provide more efficient, cost-effective solutions. This means that rather than handling high-volume, low-complexity work directly, commercial lawyers at Dentons might collaborate with ALSPs or tech-driven platforms to provide faster, more scalable solutions. This model is gaining traction as clients seek more agile and affordable options, transforming the lawyer’s role from direct service provider to strategic overseer of tech-enabled solutions.


4. Data Analytics and Predictive Insights: The use of data analytics is becoming another critical tool in the commercial lawyer’s toolkit. AI-driven platforms such as Luminance and Kira use machine learning to perform tasks like due diligence, risk assessment, and document review with incredible speed and accuracy. By using these tools, commercial lawyers can draw predictive insights from past data to assess contract risks or likely litigation outcomes, for instance. Dentons could see this technology enhancing decision-making, allowing lawyers to provide clients with data-backed strategies and solutions more quickly and with greater precision than ever before.


So its clear that each of these developments are redefining the role of commercial lawyers at Dentons. It’s no longer just about delivering legal advice; it’s about adapting to a rapidly evolving landscape of client demands, leveraging new technologies, and providing industry-specific insights across diverse sectors.


In terms of structure, adopting a paragraph for each point and hitting the nail on the head, addressing each of the points the question asks, will be a great starting points. Also ensure to reference any sources as the question also wants to dig out your research skills.


Hope you found this useful!

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi @Amma Usman and @Ram Sabaratnam

Apologies for disturbing you, but your last tips were so good that I finished two apps in one day, so much food for thought.

I am planning my application for the Hogan Lovells vacation scheme and I have some doubts regarding their commercial awareness question.
'Please tell us about a commercial news story you have recently been following. How might it impact Hogan Lovells' (HL) clients?'

Do you think I need to mention how HL can help them?

Thank you in advance for your continued help, it is greatly appreciated.

Hey @AS24,

Thanks for the question. We’re glad you’ve found the tips useful!

Given the word count of most application questions, I would say focus less on how HL can help them, although it will certainly be beneficial to do so. You should ideally go deep into the impact on HL’s clients. Another point is that any candidate isn’t expected to know exactly how a law firm will address these commercial issues as all this will become apparent on the job. However, if the word count permits, you could touch on general methods HL could employ to deal with the issue, whether this is investing in new experienced personnel to advise tech giants more efficiently and accurately. This is presumed that the commercial issue in question is in relation to the rising complexities surrounding emerging technologies and upcoming regulations in that sphere.

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi, for my Gowling application, would it be better to write about my legal work experience (full time jobs) rather than talk about vac schemes which are more recent than some of my work experience? I guess there is no right or wrong answer. I am leaning towards talking about my work experience but it feels strange not to include any of my VSs.

Hey @sibs23 , I would recommend definitely including both past vacation schemes and full-time jobs. Law firms really value direct vacation scheme experience as well as other roles. The benefit of including vac schemes is that it shows a direct expsoure to similar law firms and commercial law at large. Even if those other experiences may be within commercial law, including all experiences shows a breadth of exposure and positions you as a candidate well-versed in navigating law firms/other industries/niches.

 

[Amma Usman]

Are we likely to be asked about the US election and how it might impact the UK in our law firm interviews? I understand it will depend on individual firms (maybe US/non-US) but in general, is it likely?

Hey @KSV , It’s a possibility for sure. However, my general approach is to not engage in political discussions in interviews unless asked.

 

[Chelsea101]

Hi guys, does anyone have any tips for managing pre-ac jitters and anxiety? Really don't want it to affect my performance too much. Thank you so much

 

[Amma Usman]

Question for Jessica or any of the forum helpers here - If I have not previously done a vacation scheme, is it still worthwhile sending out some direct TC applications, as right now my circumstances make attending vacation schemes quite difficult?

Hey @Apple , you can certainly apply for direct TCs. You are right in suggesting that law firms have traditionally gone ahead with recruiting direct TC candidates from those who have already completed vacation schemes. However, this is in no way a prerequisite to a TC offer via the direct route. I know many candidates who have succeeded in such an approach. The point worth mentioning though, is that you will need to spend time with direct TC applications to ensure your motivations and competencies are strongly conveyed.

 

[BillSikes]

It's Critical Thinking (basically Watson Glaser) and then an additional separate part on verbal reasoning (questions like True, Probably True, Insufficient Data, Probably False, and False).
If you get the test they'll give you access to Assessment Day. If you go to the "Critical Thinking" section on the platform, you can practice the exact same format of their test. It was harder than a normal WG imo 😥 it's also timed just like the practice ones.

Agree it is harder. I smash WG - but somehow seem to fail critical thinking.

 

[bella98]

Agree it is harder. I smash WG - but somehow seem to fail critical thinking.

Sameee!! Hopefully I pass this one lol

 

[Deleted member 37508]

Fieldfisher test invite.

 

[yasmars]

Fieldfisher test invite.

Congrats! When did you submit your application

 

[Amma Usman]

@Andrei Radu @Ram Sabaratnam @Jessica Booker

Do you have any advice on how to answer the following?

1. What would be challenging for you as a trainee and how would you overcome that?

2. What are some of the main challenges you faced?

3. Who would be your dream client?

4. If you had a million dollars, what would you invest in right now?

Thank you!

Hey @KBanana

These are really great questions. I’ve included some tips below and some examples. Feel free to adapt your responses in the actual application form with your genuine interests and experiences!

1. What would be challenging for you as a trainee, and how would you overcome that?

One challenge trainees typically face is adapting to the firm’s internal technologies and databases, including document management platforms, internal project management software, and communication tools. To navigate this, it’s crucial to show initiative and proactivity. Law firms want to see that you’re taking responsibility for your learning, so it's not enough to say, “I would ask my supervisor.” Instead, emphasise how you’d go the extra mile by spending additional time to familiarise yourself with these tools. You could mention setting aside time outside of your daily tasks to practise using the software until you’re proficient. For example, you could review available online tutorials or training materials to master these tools more efficiently. The goal is to show that you’re dedicated to becoming well-versed with these platforms and are actively working towards being able to use them independently over time, which would demonstrate your ability to handle workloads efficiently and your commitment to adding value to the team.


2. What are some of the main challenges you faced?

For this question, you could discuss a professional challenge you encountered, either in a prior role or as part of your transition from university to a professional environment. While the question doesn’t directly ask how you overcame the challenge, it’s wise to address this as it shows resilience and growth. Think of a time when you encountered a steep learning curve—perhaps when adapting to a fast-paced role or meeting high expectations for accuracy under tight deadlines. Describe how you proactively addressed the situation by, for example, seeking feedback from supervisors, refining your time management techniques, or setting structured goals to track your progress. Demonstrating this shows that you don’t shy away from challenges and are adaptable in overcoming them.


3. Who would be your dream client?

For this question, your “dream client” doesn’t need to be an existing client of the firm, though some firms do appreciate the “reverse approach” of mentioning one of their clients as a dream client. Generally, you can choose a client in an industry or sector you’re genuinely interested in. Start by explaining why that sector appeals to you before discussing specifics about the client’s operations. For example, if you’re interested in renewable energy, you could mention a company focused on developing sustainable technologies. Discuss how the growth and innovation in renewable energy align with your interests in environmental sustainability and corporate responsibility. Giving an example of the challenges a client in that sector might face, such as navigating regulations or expanding into international markets, can further demonstrate your understanding of the industry.


4. If you had a million dollars, what would you invest in right now?

For this question, you might start by saying, “First of all, if I had a million dollars, I wouldn’t invest all of it!” Highlighting the importance of diversification can make your answer more strategic. Mention that you would avoid putting all your eggs in one basket and would likely invest only a portion in a high-growth area like energy. Energy is an ever-relevant sector because of the global demand for natural resources, which is likely to remain consistently high. For example, energy scarcity and high demand have led many industries—including law firms—to see value in sectors like energy, with some firms even relocating to regions like the Middle East due to its energy production capabilities. You could allocate another portion to healthcare and retail, both of which have been highly attractive to private equity investors recently. Here, you can reference how you could enter as an institutional investor or high-net-worth individual to take advantage of the long-term growth these sectors offer. And after an 8-10 year period, you could plan to exit your investment for an optimal return, showcasing both your interest in growth and your understanding of strategic long-term investments.

Hope this helps!

 

[RonRod13]

Th

Thank you mate and good luck on the AC.

Havent got the AC yet tho

 

[Deleted member 37508]

Congrats! When did you submit your application

Thank you. 25/10

 

[Amma Usman]

Hey guys, I had my W&C VI last week, and in between answering a question, I started mumbling a bit and froze. I havent been able to forgive myself since then, because I know how much it took me to get to that point, and I essentially feel like I fumbled the bag. I havent heard back, and every time my mail app sends a notification, my heart skips a beat. How do I forgive myself for this

Hey @Simi.O

I completely understand how you're feeling right now. I remember during my first-year scheme application cycle, I was asked to complete a pre-recorded interview, and I completely froze until the time limit ran out. I felt exactly the way you do—disappointed and as if I'd wasted an important opportunity. But moments like this are actually more common than we realise, especially early in our careers when we’re still getting comfortable with these high-stakes situations.

It’s easy to get down on yourself, but it’s crucial to remember that this one moment doesn’t define you or your potential. I convinced myself that it wasn’t a true measure of my ability to communicate well and saw it as just one of many stepping stones in the journey. I also found it helpful to take a step back and recharge, which helped me come back stronger and even more prepared for the next time.

So, be kind to yourself. You’re capable of learning from this, and it’s clear you’re already doing everything you can to grow. No matter the outcome, this experience is a valuable lesson that will only make you more resilient. Keep going—you’re doing amazing!

 

[hfbjsdhfbhf]

I did the Bird & Bird WG last Friday. Hopefully I’ll hear something back soon!

was this for the summer or spring VS?