TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2023-24

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diligentbean

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Hi - how did people pass the Reed Smith/ Baker McKenzie online tests? I don’t feel as though there’s much practice material out there and I found that a lot of the answers just didn’t make sense from a practical perspective. The tests were very similar but I got completely different personality results. Feeling pretty disillusioned, as at least I can study for the Watson Glaser. Have no idea how I could’ve done better (a lot of the options given for situations weren’t how I would respond, I picked the closest ones and tried to stay consistent).
 
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Hi - how did people pass the Reed Smith/ Baker McKenzie online tests? I don’t feel as though there’s much practice material out there and I found that a lot of the answers just didn’t make sense from a practical perspective. The tests were very similar but I got completely different personality results. Feeling pretty disillusioned, as at least I can study for the Watson Glaser. Have no idea how I could’ve done better (a lot of the options given for situations weren’t how I would respond, I picked the closest ones and tried to stay consistent).
I don't think they're ones you can really practice for much if I'm honest. It's cliche but I would just answer them honestly; I've done the strategy before where you try to think of the "right" answer, but the obvious one often isn't right.

I did both the BM and RS ones, and, like you, I got dissimilar outcomes in each of the pillars, despite answering honestly in both. I don't get how I can be a 7/9 for grit in one test and 3/9 on another!
 

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    Those who have taken Watson Glaser tests and understand the “assumption” part, please can someone explain this to me? I understand the other parts but for some reason when it gets to “assumption” I get confused.

    Does “assumption not made” mean that the statement does not necessarily match with the assumption and “assumption made” would mean that the statement matches the assumption so correlates but is just re-worded?

    Please could a question and answer be provided but also explained a little?

    @axelbeugre @Jessica Booker do you perhaps have any tips on how I can better understand the “assumption” part of the WG? 😊
     
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    r5533

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    Those who have taken Watson Glaser tests and understand the “assumption” part, please can someone explain this to me? I understand the other parts but for some reason when it gets to “assumption” I get confused.

    @axelbeugre @Jessica Booker do you perhaps have any tips on how I can get better with the “assumption” part of the WG? 😊
    I am terrible at WG so I may be completely wrong here but the statement implies that a lack of courtesy among staff is due to unsuccessful management therefore you can define managerial success by measuring how the staff interact with each other. Essentially, if staff did have courtesy amongst each other, it would imply the managers were successful in their role. So I think it can be defined that way? Again I might be completely wrong so anyone please feel free to correct me!
     
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    Sunshinepink

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    I am terrible at WG so I may be completely wrong here but the statement implies that a lack of courtesy among staff is due to unsuccessful management therefore you can define managerial success by measuring how the staff interact with each other. Essentially, if staff did have courtesy amongst each other, it would imply the managers were successful in their role. So I think it can be defined that way? Again I might be completely wrong so anyone please feel free to correct me!

    Thank you so much for replying! I think I understand abit better from your explanation, so because the proposed assumption matched the original statement but was just worded differently, it could be said that the assumption was made?
     

    legalgirlie

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    Thank you so much for replying! I think I understand abit better from your explanation, so because the proposed assumption matched the original statement but was just worded differently, it could be said that the assumption was made?
    not sure if this is correct, but the way I understood those was that, if someone is saying XYZ about managers' success, then necessarily, that success CAN be defined (through some metric etc). Otherwise, if it couldn't be defined, you wouldn't be able to make claims about their level of success because you wouldn't be able to measure/count it. Idk if that's correct but that's how I think about it!!
     
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    LehmanBrothersRiskManagementIntern

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    This cycle has been absolutely brutal. There was competition even a couple of years ago but not as much as this year. I have heard that it's the same in other sectors too such as consulting, tech, etc.
    While I am yet to secure something this year, I know someone with 5 vac scheme offers and 1 TC offer. Despite having signed the TC, this person will still be doing the other vac schemes (although it's not allowed according to the terms of the TC). While I am just hoping for one offer 💀
     

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    not sure if this is correct, but the way I understood those was that, if someone is saying XYZ about managers' success, then necessarily, that success CAN be defined (through some metric etc). Otherwise, if it couldn't be defined, you wouldn't be able to make claims about their level of success because you wouldn't be able to measure/count it. Idk if that's correct but that's how I think about it!
    @Sunshinepink ^ a way better explanation than mine!
     
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    axelbeugre

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    I’ve got a spring AC for a firm but due to personal reasons the VS dates don’t work for me anymore— should I still do my AC (scheduled for next week) and then ask the firm to reschedule the VS if I get it, or should I request to be moved to the summer VS group now itself, before the AC? @Jessica Booker @axelbeugre
    I would wait to get an actual offer before asking to be moved personally. Law firms are usually very understanding when it comes to situations like this so I would work hard to get the offer and then see what can be done to move you afterwards.

    Ideally, if they are not able to move you to the summer scheme you could ask them to consider you for a direct training contract if possible.
     
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