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Hi future trainees! I have been lucky enough to be invited to an AC next week which involves a negotiation exercise. Have any of you done a negotiation and would you be able to provide some dos and don'ts. I'm worried about striking a balance between talking too much and not enough
Hey @futuretcholder and first of all huge congrats, this is an incredible achievement! As for your questions, the guide @Jessica Booker linked is amazing and so is @Amma Usman's advice. Just to add to that some further thoughts from my own experience:

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  • Try to anticipate before the beginning of the negotiation what would be the most common motivations and arguments levelled by you and the other party to defend a position. Then try to thing of some less obvious further points in your favor. Once you have reached an impasse after both sides have walked the others through the common points, you can use these further argument to move the compromise slightly in your favor.
  • Start your negotiation with higher demands than what you actually want or expect to obtain. Say your client asks you to obtain a purchase price of $1 million. You should then maybe start the negotiation by asking for $1.4-1.5 million, and slowly start reducing the number as a result of the other party's bargaining. As such, when you finally reach your desired figure, the other party will thing you have already compromised a lot and will not be tempted to push you much further.
  • Be tactical with the points you concede and with horse-trading. Even if something that the other party is adamant about obtaining is irrelevant/low-priority for you, you should not simply give that for free. Instead, you could act as if that is something that matters to you and give in to the demands as a concession. this way, you will be able to trade your concession for a concession from the other side, or at least to purchase some good will.
  • Be mindful of yours or your client's priorities, even if not stated explicitly. If the priority is to get a deal through at almost all costs, be ready to compromise a lot even if the other side is not being very reasonable.
  • Ask many probing questions when at an impasse, to see what motivates the other side's positions and whether you can find a compromise in a different/flexible form that is compatible with both yours and their priorities.
  • Be mindful of time limits and try to allocate a sufficient amount of time to discuss every relevant point and also have time for a final recap.

Do nots:
  • Be too passive or willing to compromise on anything. Especially avoid giving in to demands which are not supported by a reasonable motivation.
  • Try to speak over others, interrupt, or be overly dominant. You will notice that there might be some competition between people at the beginning, as everyone is hurrying to mention some of the more obvious points before they are said by others. Try to introduce some structure into that discussion and rather than trying to compete to say the same points, perhaps try to take the role of the person who makes a synthesis of everyone's contributions and also adds some of the less obvious points at the end to shift the compromise in their favor.
  • Have an adversarial attitude, even if the other side is unreasonable. Instead, you can aim to respond with an attitude of 'That's an interesting point, it's great you brought that up. However, I think we should also consider that...'. This will enable the other side to concede points without looking bad.
 
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Please could you let me know what you know about Simmons AC, I have found the instructions to be very brief and I want to know how best to prepare for the different tasks: inbox exercise, client discussion and case study.

Thank you.

Hey @FLOWERYELLOW2002 , thanks for your question. I haven’t had any experience with Simmons in particular, but here are a few tips from the specific points you’ve mentioned:

Inbox Exercise

The inbox exercise simulates a real-life work scenario where you'll be managing multiple tasks and deadlines, often under time pressure. Typically, you'll be reviewing emails and responding appropriately. This could involve prioritizing client queries, drafting responses, and even summarizing complex information into clear, actionable advice.

In some cases, you might also be asked to write an electronic memo summarizing your thoughts and findings based on attached documents or client instructions. It’s important to maintain a professional tone and address client concerns clearly. I would suggest focusing on being concise yet thorough—clients value clarity and precision in legal advice.

In my experience, law firms want to see how well you manage your workload, respond to client needs, and communicate effectively. A good way to prepare is by practicing drafting succinct emails and memos, perhaps even setting a timer to simulate the time pressure you may face on the day.


Client Discussion

A client discussion exercise could involve advising a client on the surrounding circumstances of their case, often in the presence of a senior lawyer or partner. This task will test your ability to communicate complex legal issues clearly and efficiently. The key here is to ensure you fully understand the client’s objectives—what they want to achieve from the matter—and provide tailored advice that addresses those concerns.

The client may ask questions on the spot, so it’s important to stay calm and think on your feet. They’ll be assessing your commercial awareness and understanding of how legal principles apply to business situations. Therefore, brushing up on recent commercial cases or trends in the sector can be beneficial. Whether you're discussing contract negotiations, regulatory issues, or disputes, having a broad understanding of the legal and business implications will help you shine.

If you’re preparing for a transactional firm, expect more corporate-focused discussions—think mergers, acquisitions, and private equity. For more contentious firms, the discussion may lean towards litigation or dispute resolution. Being aware of both areas is crucial, as even transactional clients will appreciate your awareness of potential disputes, and vice versa.

Case Study

Case studies at law firm assessment centres tend to focus on contemporary issues in the commercial world. You might be given an article on a specific industry, like energy, or a broader topic such as private equity or mergers and acquisitions (M&A). The task will usually involve analyzing the situation and advising on potential legal or business solutions. Firms are testing your ability to digest information, think critically, and apply your legal knowledge to real-world scenarios.

For example, in a case study involving M&A, you may need to advise on due diligence, regulatory concerns, or the structure of the deal. In a case centered around energy, you might need to discuss environmental regulations, contract risks, or the impact of geopolitical events. Be sure to structure your analysis logically: identify the key issues, consider possible solutions, and weigh the pros and cons of each option.

In my experience, transactional firms tend to center their case studies on corporate law issues, while contentious firms will have case studies focused more on litigation or regulatory concerns. However, showcasing knowledge of both will help you come across as a well-rounded candidate. It’s essential to demonstrate that you can consider both corporate and contentious aspects—this will highlight your versatility and make you a more attractive prospect.

General Tips

  • Research the firm: Know their major practice areas, recent cases, and key clients. It helps to tailor your responses and demonstrate your commercial awareness.
  • Time management: These exercises are often time-pressured, so practice managing your time effectively.
  • Attention to detail: Commercial law demands precision, so take care in reviewing documents, drafting emails, and delivering advice.
  • Clear communication: Whether in written tasks or discussions, make sure your points are clear, concise, and business-oriented.

Hope this helps!
 

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What are the benefits (from a trainee perspective) to work in a sector focussed firm? All I have so far is that it'll help me develop commercial awareness to provide more tailored client services and perhaps help me find my niche earlier on (allowing greater career development). Moreover, why would having a broad practice exposure be beneficial? (again, all I have is that it'll help me make a more justified decision on where to qualify).

Additionally, are there any TCLA resources (or any you've used) for situational interview preparation?

Thanks in advance!
 

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What are the benefits (from a trainee perspective) to work in a sector focussed firm? All I have so far is that it'll help me develop commercial awareness to provide more tailored client services and perhaps help me find my niche earlier on (allowing greater career development). Moreover, why would having a broad practice exposure be beneficial? (again, all I have is that it'll help me make a more justified decision on where to qualify).

Additionally, are there any TCLA resources (or any you've used) for situational interview preparation?

Thanks in advance!
Hey @aspiringlawyer12 I will list some of the other benefits I can think of bellow, although what you have listed is already quite persuasive in my opinion. As for the situational interview resources, you can find a section on it in the TCLA course you can find here.

Benefits from working in a sector-focused firm:

  1. Learning more about the intricacies of the sector as a benefit in itself: if you have a prior interest in a given sector of the economy, working for a firm that has a focus on that sector will enable you to get a lot more exposure to it, which can be a benefit in and of itself. Just as you might have a general interest in commercial law because you have a general interest in learning more about and working with businesses, you might also have a specific interest in sector-focused firms because you have a specific interest in learning more about the sector. This reasoning will be especially persuasive if you have some previous work or other relevant experience related to the sector. Personally, I have seen candidates write persuasive answers based on this type of question in regards to sectors ranging from tech and financial services to energy, pharma and transportation.
  2. Becoming a true strategic business advisor: this is similar to the line of reasoning you mentioned but is focused on long-term career prospects. Essentially, the idea is that if you spend years and years working on matters in a single industry, by the time you become a more senior practitioner you will have almost as much technical expertise in the sector as the client themselves. Having this kind of deep insight and knowledge of the industry will not only mean that you can give better advice to clients on particular mandates, but it will also mean you will be in a better position to form a client-lawyer relationship which goes beyond that. This way, you will have a good chance of becoming a go-to strategic advisor for the client, which is potentially a more interesting role than just dealing with their legal requests.
  3. More high-end mandates: if the firm can generally provide better service than its competitors because of its sector focus, this also means that the firm will be better placed to win the top of the market mandates from that industry. This might be naturally attractive to you, as these mandates tend to be the among the most complex and consequential.

Benefits of a broad practice area spread:
  1. Becoming a more well-rounded lawyer: essentially, if you get to experience a greater variety of practice areas in your TC, you will learn how to consider legal issues from more perspectives regardless of where you eventually end up qualifying. This more holistic training experience therefore arguably gives you the opportunity to become a better lawyer. For instance, if you become a transactional lawyer but you have also worked in disputes, you will be able to draft terms with a better view as to what kind of drafting can lead to litigation risk down the line. Or if you become a disputes lawyer but have also experienced a transactional seat, you will simply know more about the context of the dealmaking process from which many disputes originate, which can potentially enable you to navigate the legal and factual issues more effectively.
  2. Hedge against market risk: as has been seen in the recent dealmaking market downturn, demand for some law firm practice areas can significantly fluctuate depending on economic conditions. As such, when the market is down for one practice, if a very significant part of a firm's revenue was reliant on it, the firm will be forced to make layoffs. However, generally when the market is down for one practice, it goes up for another. For instance, while after the pandemic era boom demand has been low for PE and M&A departments, demand has also been up for restructuring and litigation departments. Thus, firms with a broad spread get to recover losses from one practice with increased earnings from another, which means it is more likely they will be able to retain their staff (and potentially used the position of financial strength to expand, like Paul, Weiss did after 2008).
  3. Cross-selling opportunities: finally, having more practice areas comes with opportunities for cross-selling. If you establish a relationship with a client in one practice area, you can then 'cross-sell' the services offered by the other practices. This leads to better business and profits for the entire firm. An example of this strategy being used successfully once again comes from Paul, Weiss, as the litigation arm of the firm managed to cross-sell its PE department to Apollo - which ended up establishing one of the closest institutional ties between a law firm and a PE house in the market.
 

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Hi @allwillbewell , I believe this refers to the firm having several practice areas, across multiple industries - essentially ‘full service’. This would mean that the firm likely has great contentious (litigation) and transactional (corporate, M&A, private equity, etc) practices.
 

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Hi! @Andrei Radu @Ram Sabaratnam @Amma Usman. I hope you're all doing well:).
I am doing my research for a firm that frequently references its multidisciplinary approach. I have a vague idea of what this means, but I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you!
Hi @allwillbewell! I think what the law firm means by it depends on the context, but I think it is likely it refers to one of the two related concepts:
  1. Multidisciplinary approach to client service: Essentially, the idea here is that clients (and especially clients in the financial sector) are increasingly asking for more from lawyers than technical legal advice. Many commentators point out that clients now expect lawyers to be able to provide general business decision-making advice as well. This requires both a deep understanding of the client's business arms and departments and generally strong commercial awareness skills. Knowledge of new tech developments (especially in the AI sphere), of environmental and of geopolitical matters is more relevant than ever, as is an ability to flexibly provide legal and other counselling services around them. As such, some firms have started to try to develop their expertise in other 'disciplines' besides the traditional purely-legal ones. For instance, some have added consulting arms to their business, while other have invested in legal tech development capabilities.
  2. Multidisciplinary approach to training: The related idea here is that to be a truly multidisciplinary firm, you need lawyers trained to think across disciplines and consider the client's interests from multiple lenses. To have that, some firms invest in providing training which goes well beyond technical legal skills and includes teaching of financial and business skills, tech, and ESG matters. Moreover, some firms (such as Slaughter and May) apply the same philosophy in the structuring of their practice areas. As such, instead of working in a niche subdepartment, at this type of firm you could gain exposure to a much wider variety of matters under one broader practice area umbrella. For instance, in corporate you could one day work on a public M&A deal, the next one on an equity issue, and the next on a PE transaction, while at other firms you would need to do 3 different seats to experience working on all these mandates.
 
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What are the benefits (from a trainee perspective) to work in a sector focussed firm? All I have so far is that it'll help me develop commercial awareness to provide more tailored client services and perhaps help me find my niche earlier on (allowing greater career development). Moreover, why would having a broad practice exposure be beneficial? (again, all I have is that it'll help me make a more justified decision on where to qualify).

Additionally, are there any TCLA resources (or any you've used) for situational interview preparation?

Thanks in advance!

You're definitely on the right track! Working in a sector-focused firm has some clear benefits, especially from a trainee perspective. First off, it lets you build strong commercial awareness around specific industries—whether it's finance, tech, energy, or employment. You’ll get to know the ins and outs of what clients in that sector care about, which means you can offer them much more tailored, practical advice. Plus, getting that kind of exposure early on can help you find your niche sooner, which is really helpful for shaping your career path and setting yourself apart.

On the other hand, broad practice exposure has its own perks. By experiencing a variety of legal areas, you get to dip your toes into different kinds of work, which can really help you figure out where you feel most at home before deciding where to qualify. You also become a more well-rounded lawyer, since seeing how different practice areas intersect lets you think more strategically and understand a range of client needs. This flexibility can be a big asset down the line because many clients—especially at big firms—have issues that span multiple legal areas.

So, having a mix of both can really give you a strong foundation. You’d get the depth that comes with sector focus and the breadth that comes with exploring different practices, making you not only knowledgeable in your niche but adaptable in ways that clients and firms really value.
 
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Hi all! There are a couple of written exercises to buy on the TCLA website. I am trying to prepare for an AC, but I'm not sure the best one to pick. Thank you for your recommendation!
 

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Hi all! There are a couple of written exercises to buy on the TCLA website. I am trying to prepare for an AC, but I'm not sure the best one to pick. Thank you for your recommendation!
Hi there - we can typically advise which written exercise would be best for you to select if you let us know which firm you have an AC with. Feel free to send me a private message via the forums and I can pick up with the team and let you know which one to select.
 

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@Amma Usman Would you mind taking at my 'Why commercial law question'?

I am drawn to the business context in which commercial solicitor’s operate, while also applying the passion for law I have developed during my PGDL. I adopt a commercial mindset; for example, as a tour guide at xxxx, I identified a gap in our consumer base among younger audiences and took the initiative to develop a specialised tour tailored to secondary school students, aligning it with the GCSE curriculum. The tour was a success and I went on to conduct it for another school, contributing to a 75% increase in revenue that month.

I find seeing the tangible impact of my work motivating. As a tutor, I experienced a 100% pass rate for GCSE English Literature. This led me to become a politics mentor at university, where, having achieved a First in the majority of my modules, I created a presentation on essay writing and 75% of my mentees achieved a First in their first assessment. The role of a commercial solicitor is the pinnacle of impactful work. Take Weil’s role in Advent International’s $6.4 billion acquisition of Maxar Technologies, which was named as Private Equity deal of the year at the 2024 IFLR Awards.
 

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@Amma Usman Would you mind taking at my 'Why commercial law question'?

I am drawn to the business context in which commercial solicitor’s operate, while also applying the passion for law I have developed during my PGDL. I adopt a commercial mindset; for example, as a tour guide at xxxx, I identified a gap in our consumer base among younger audiences and took the initiative to develop a specialised tour tailored to secondary school students, aligning it with the GCSE curriculum. The tour was a success and I went on to conduct it for another school, contributing to a 75% increase in revenue that month.

I find seeing the tangible impact of my work motivating. As a tutor, I experienced a 100% pass rate for GCSE English Literature. This led me to become a politics mentor at university, where, having achieved a First in the majority of my modules, I created a presentation on essay writing and 75% of my mentees achieved a First in their first assessment. The role of a commercial solicitor is the pinnacle of impactful work. Take Weil’s role in Advent International’s $6.4 billion acquisition of Maxar Technologies, which was named as Private Equity deal of the year at the 2024 IFLR Awards.
To me this is a little too heavy on detailing past experiences rather than saying why you want to do the work of a lawyer. With the approach you have taken, you are trying to sell your capabilities rather than explain your motivations.
 

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To me this is a little too heavy on detailing past experiences rather than saying why you want to do the work of a lawyer. With the approach you have taken, you are trying to sell your capabilities rather than explain your motivations.
Thank you so much!!! Is the second paragraph ok? Here are some changes I made to the first:


I am drawn to the business context in which commercial solicitors operate, while also applying the passion for law I developed during my PGDL. As a tour guide for xxx, I demonstrated a commercial mindset by identifying a gap in our consumer base among younger audiences. I took the initiative to create a specialised tour tailored to secondary school students, aligning it with the GCSE curriculum. I recognise the importance of understanding a client’s business, ranging from growth and innovation strategies to its competitors. Becoming a solicitor will allow me to apply these factors to client needs.
 

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Thank you so much!!! Is the second paragraph ok? Here are some changes I made to the first:


I am drawn to the business context in which commercial solicitors operate, while also applying the passion for law I developed during my PGDL. As a tour guide for xxx, I demonstrated a commercial mindset by identifying a gap in our consumer base among younger audiences. I took the initiative to create a specialised tour tailored to secondary school students, aligning it with the GCSE curriculum. I recognise the importance of understanding a client’s business, ranging from growth and innovation strategies to its competitors. Becoming a solicitor will allow me to apply these factors to client needs.
This is still relying too heavily on a past experience. Try to ensure your answer is more forward looking - what is it about the role/responsibilities/tasks/subjects you feel are going to be interesting, motivating or inspiring to you? What will you enjoy. Lead with this first, and then reference very briefly if there is anything that links to that particular theme.
 
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I have a VS coming up and one of the tasks is a pitch exercise - what sort of things are good to bear in mind and what should be included for a successful pitch? I believe we have to pitch a practice group to partners about a commercial issue that will affect a client, would it be a good idea to try and simulate a real pitch as much as possible (include stuff around the firm's pro bono, D&I etc, as clients care about that), or focus on the commercial aspects more. Thanks in advance!
 

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I have a VS coming up and one of the tasks is a pitch exercise - what sort of things are good to bear in mind and what should be included for a successful pitch? I believe we have to pitch a practice group to partners about a commercial issue that will affect a client, would it be a good idea to try and simulate a real pitch as much as possible (include stuff around the firm's pro bono, D&I etc, as clients care about that), or focus on the commercial aspects more. Thanks in advance!
Tailor your presentation to the client first, rather than the firm. You have to ensure the pitch is appropriate for the audience, which in a real life situation would be the client, not people from the firm. If the pitch would work for multiple clients, it probably isn't tailored enough.

I would focus on what the client cares about too - for one client that could be the commercial aspects, for the next more emphasis might be needed on pro bono or CSR. Use the vacation scheme to try and find people who have worked for that client (assuming it is an existing client) or at least know the industry that the client is in. Get their advice on what the client might care about. Look for documents on the firm's filing system or intranet that may also inform you of how the firm has worked with them in the past (or similar clients).

Finally, work as a team to ensure your presentation is one seamless presentation rather than its respective parts delivered by each team member. It can be viewed quite negatively if there is a sense the team hasn't worked together to create a presentation.
 
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I have a VS coming up and one of the tasks is a pitch exercise - what sort of things are good to bear in mind and what should be included for a successful pitch? I believe we have to pitch a practice group to partners about a commercial issue that will affect a client, would it be a good idea to try and simulate a real pitch as much as possible (include stuff around the firm's pro bono, D&I etc, as clients care about that), or focus on the commercial aspects more. Thanks in advance!

Hey @aspiringlawyer12

@Jessica Booker has really covered all the main things to look out for. I’ve also included some examples below on what I’ve encountered in past ACs on presentations centred to the client;

1. Highlight Risks and Opportunities: Beyond addressing the commercial issue, consider identifying potential risks the client may face and propose proactive strategies the firm could offer to mitigate them. Additionally, explore how the practice group can help the client leverage opportunities in the market.

2. Use Data: Incorporate relevant statistics, market trends, or legal precedents that back up your points. This demonstrates thorough research and a commercial mindset, which partners will likely appreciate.

3. Anticipate Questions: Think about questions the client (or the partners acting as the client) might ask during the pitch. Prepare answers that show deep understanding and confidence in your recommendations. However, be weary that you can’t prepare for every possible question and that’s fine. You’re not expected to know everything that could come up. Sufficiently research the area well, such that any question that comes up will be easy to answer since you already have a solid foundation. This approach has served me well.

4. Show Cohesion and Professionalism:
As @Jessica Booker had explained, this is really important. Practice delivering the presentation as a team to ensure it flows seamlessly. Build in transitions between sections so it feels like a unified pitch rather than disjointed contributions. Consider running a mock presentation to refine your timing and delivery.

5.Ask questions: When you’re asked a question you dont know the answer to, it’s totally fine to admit it in a professional manner. You could say something like ‘ we are happy to do more research on this and get back to you with a concrete answer by COB tomorrow’. This shows you gave time to think about their questions, instead of saying anything for the sake of saying something. In the real world, I believe this is the favoured approach when dealing with clients.

Best of luck with the VS! You’re gonna smash it! ;)
 

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Thank you so much!!! Is the second paragraph ok? Here are some changes I made to the first:


I am drawn to the business context in which commercial solicitors operate, while also applying the passion for law I developed during my PGDL. As a tour guide for xxx, I demonstrated a commercial mindset by identifying a gap in our consumer base among younger audiences. I took the initiative to create a specialised tour tailored to secondary school students, aligning it with the GCSE curriculum. I recognise the importance of understanding a client’s business, ranging from growth and innovation strategies to its competitors. Becoming a solicitor will allow me to apply these factors to client needs.

Hey @legal18 , this is a good draft. I believe you could make a few tweaks to make it even stronger. As @Jessica Booker had pointed out, your answer should focus on your motivations more. You seem to sway more into the realm of why you, rather than why commercial law. I understand how easy it is to mix up the two application questions, especially when you are trying to incorporate any past experiences to demonstrate an interest in the profession. You will need to be very specific on why the business and legal aspects appeals to you. Then, you could include an example academic task or work experience you did which made you realise this. At this point, you should ideally not include any skills you gained as this will shift the focus away from what the actual question is asking. First, focus on the specifics of your exposure to business law. If you are keen on weaving any why you in this part of the answer, you could include any examples of how you thrived in a commercial environment based on the experience you already gave. For example,’ feedback from your manager on your ability to do X’ which made you realise you had the potential to succeed in commercial law. This should only be included in brief at the end though, as you wouldn’t want your answer to go off on any tangents. For more on this, I’ve made a thread which I’ve linked below;


Happy to review the next draft.
 

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I am curious to know your thoughts on a question I am currently trying to write up an answer to. The question is asking me to describe a recent setback I faced. I am currently choosing between two situations I can write about:

1) Throughout university I always wanted a journal publication - on my first two attempts I got rejected - but then on my third attempt I chose a more topical theme, improved my research and analysis methods and then managed to secure publication - i was also quoted by a very prominent legal organisation

2) While social media officer for an event committee, I was not meeting my event registration targets - In response, I analysed our marketing stats, started making more personalised and tailored social media posts, conducted in-person marketing as well as online marketing, and encouraged my team members to come with me on campuses to do group marketing - In the end, the campaign achieved record LinkedIn engagement and the event had record attendance

I am struggling with picking which situation to talk about - I would be super grateful if you could let me know which situation you think is better to write about and demonstrates the most resilience
 

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