2020-21 Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion

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...but also probably preparing a lot for the case study! I come from a law background but my degree has no commercial or corporate content so I basically learned all that beforehand and I think that's what they found most impressive.

My interviewers were also the nicest I'd ever had and such welcoming friendly people so I think that also factored majorly into my confidence like being able to relax and smile and crack a few jokes!
i don’t know you but you seem like a lovely person, your offer to help out on the forums is so nice. I’m incredibly happy for you! Dentons is lucky to have you. :)
 

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I had a call from Kirkland yesterday and they said they got 600 applications for their vac scheme, which is a lot lower than I expected for Kirkland no? especially since other firms are seeing much higher numbers

That is very interesting! Maybe something to do with the low number if TC’s and the selective criteria? Competition this year is crazy. Would be good to know what they usually get and if that number is higher than usual. Good luck if you are waiting in any more feedback!
 

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I can't believe I'm writing this...

After my AC yesterday for a summer VS, the partner who interviewed me just calling me letting me know that they were so impressed THEY'RE OFFERING ME THE TC STRAIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I literally would not have had even an OUNCE of success without the forum and this INCREDIBLY supportive community and I hope desperately that there's some way for me to give back to all the people that've helped and anyone else that might be struggling with getting a VS/TC in the future. Please let me know if there's something I can do - I'd love to stick around here in some form for next cycles!!!!!

now back to crying my eyes out lol

A massive congratulations! This is well deserved. Definitely spoil yourself this weekend and allow it all to sink in. It’s great when we get to hear these success stories. Proof that hard work pays off. What an amazing firm to train at. Congratulations again!!!
 
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That is very interesting! Maybe something to do with the low number if TC’s and the selective criteria? Competition this year is crazy. Would be good to know what they usually get and if that number is higher than usual. Good luck if you are waiting in any more feedback!
well chambers said they get 1000 average so thats why I was surprised I guess
 

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    I had a call from Kirkland yesterday and they said they got 600 applications for their vac scheme, which is a lot lower than I expected for Kirkland no? especially since other firms are seeing much higher numbers
    I think a lot more people than you'd expect are intimidated by firms like Kirkland to the point of not applying. I think, in part, this is down to people either being worried by the 'American firm' reputation and also some people think "Oh they pay so much everyone will apply there and I don't have a chance".

    Based on my (albeit limited) knowledge, it's MC/ SC and international firms who receive the biggest volume of applicants as they're perceived as less intimidating :)
     

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    I had a call from Kirkland yesterday and they said they got 600 applications for their vac scheme, which is a lot lower than I expected for Kirkland no? especially since other firms are seeing much higher numbers
    Also worth considering that K&E are pretty specialised in terms of its transactional, PE, sponsor-side focus. Might not be everyone's cup of tea, esp if you want a broad TC experience :)
     
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    I had a call from Kirkland yesterday and they said they got 600 applications for their vac scheme, which is a lot lower than I expected for Kirkland no? especially since other firms are seeing much higher numbers
    as someone who has applied to quite a few US firms but not Kirkland, the reputation of Kirkland being a serious sweatshop put me off applying- I know at all top law firms you work long hours but I have heard the worst about kirkland and personally I don’t think it’s worth it to work there as a trainee where the salary difference is minimal- maybe quite a few people share this view?
     

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    as someone who has applied to quite a few US firms but not Kirkland, the reputation of Kirkland being a serious sweatshop put me off applying- I know at all top law firms you work long hours but I have heard the worst about kirkland and personally I don’t think it’s worth it to work there as a trainee where the salary difference is minimal- maybe quite a few people share this view?
    Yep I didn't apply to Kirkland and this was exactly why!
     

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    I had a call from Kirkland yesterday and they said they got 600 applications for their vac scheme, which is a lot lower than I expected for Kirkland no? especially since other firms are seeing much higher numbers
    Probably because Kirkland doesn’t have that many places too, as opposed to MC/SC. Also I don’t find Kirkland to be outgoing and have an active GR like some other American firms (S&S for example).
     

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    I can't believe I'm writing this...

    After my AC yesterday for a summer VS, the partner who interviewed me just calling me letting me know that they were so impressed THEY'RE OFFERING ME THE TC STRAIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I literally would not have had even an OUNCE of success without the forum and this INCREDIBLY supportive community and I hope desperately that there's some way for me to give back to all the people that've helped and anyone else that might be struggling with getting a VS/TC in the future. Please let me know if there's something I can do - I'd love to stick around here in some form for next cycles!!!!!

    now back to crying my eyes out lol
    this is incredible! massive congrats!!
     
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    as someone who has applied to quite a few US firms but not Kirkland, the reputation of Kirkland being a serious sweatshop put me off applying- I know at all top law firms you work long hours but I have heard the worst about kirkland and personally I don’t think it’s worth it to work there as a trainee where the salary difference is minimal- maybe quite a few people share this view?
    It’s also worth remembering that they don’t pay as much as Legal Cheek says they do - the dollar exchange rate fluctuates but $190000 was only £145000 when the pound was doing its worst last year and they’re usually more in the realm of all the other US firms which pay £130000 +
     

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    I can't believe I'm writing this...

    After my AC yesterday for a summer VS, the partner who interviewed me just calling me letting me know that they were so impressed THEY'RE OFFERING ME THE TC STRAIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I literally would not have had even an OUNCE of success without the forum and this INCREDIBLY supportive community and I hope desperately that there's some way for me to give back to all the people that've helped and anyone else that might be struggling with getting a VS/TC in the future. Please let me know if there's something I can do - I'd love to stick around here in some form for next cycles!!!!!

    now back to crying my eyes out lol
    I am late to the party, but I am so so happy for you! It's been amazing to follow your journey on here and I cannot wait to hear about your adventures as a trainee. Congratulations!
    Excited Season 2 GIF by The Office
     
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    Andrew M

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    I can't believe I'm writing this...

    After my AC yesterday for a summer VS, the partner who interviewed me just calling me letting me know that they were so impressed THEY'RE OFFERING ME THE TC STRAIGHT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I literally would not have had even an OUNCE of success without the forum and this INCREDIBLY supportive community and I hope desperately that there's some way for me to give back to all the people that've helped and anyone else that might be struggling with getting a VS/TC in the future. Please let me know if there's something I can do - I'd love to stick around here in some form for next cycles!!!!!

    now back to crying my eyes out lol
    Well done, you absolutely deserve this!
     
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    It’s also worth remembering that they don’t pay as much as Legal Cheek says they do - the dollar exchange rate fluctuates but $190000 was only £145000 when the pound was doing its worst last year and they’re usually more in the realm of all the other US firms which pay £130000 +
    They may pay a fixed exchange rate though like Latham & Watkins so as to prevent this from happening and offer a guaranteed level of base income. It's also important to note that these are base salaries that don't include bonuses so the reality is that lawyers will earn more than these figures anyway
     
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    They may pay a fixed exchange rate though like Latham & Watkins so as to prevent this from happening and offer a guaranteed level of base income. It's also important to note that these are base salaries that don't include bonuses so the reality is that lawyers will earn more than these figures anyway
    Also to add if you make a big deal happen that adds a really big bonus but I don't know much about this.
     
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    They may pay a fixed exchange rate though like Latham & Watkins so as to prevent this from happening and offer a guaranteed level of base income. It's also important to note that these are base salaries that don't include bonuses so the reality is that lawyers will earn more than these figures anyway
    I'd be surprised though if their guaranteed level of base income were normally higher than their US salary. Legal Cheek reported somewhere else that Kirkland and Latham's current salaries are 136 000 I think, still v high obviously but V&E are way out front, and S&C, Goodwin and Sidley are probably regularly above, with many other firms in the same ballpark.
     

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    It’s also worth remembering that they don’t pay as much as Legal Cheek says they do - the dollar exchange rate fluctuates but $190000 was only £145000 when the pound was doing its worst last year and they’re usually more in the realm of all the other US firms which pay £130000 +
    They may pay a fixed exchange rate though like Latham & Watkins so as to prevent this from happening and offer a guaranteed level of base income. It's also important to note that these are base salaries that don't include bonuses so the reality is that lawyers will earn more than these figures anyway
    I think we also need to take into account mental health. The recent TCLA survey and the pandemic really outline the need to have a balanced life and have more open communication within the work environment. Money is good but if I am miserable..cannot spend it!
     
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