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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Amma Usman

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This is super last minute but would really appreciate some insight. I have an AC tomorrow and really struggling with how to choose a deal that the form has worked on and discuss it. What factors should i consider when discussing the deal?

@Ram Sabaratnam @Amma Usman would really appreciate your advise as well?

The truth is, you don’t have to discuss a deal to succeed in an AC. Many firms work on similar deals, so unless the deal you are referencing has a unique aspect to it, then you will find it difficult to show demonstrated interest. If you really want to discuss a deal, you may find it worthwhile considering the below aspects:

  • Overview of deal itself.
  • Position/effect in market.
  • Firm’s advisory role to link to their strength in a specific practice.

NB: This list is non-exhaustive.
 

AS24

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Hi there. I have quoted a post I made on this to help. You will need to click on the post itself to see the links I have tagged. Another thing to add is that succeeding in ACs is more mental, than technical. One may have all the technical knowledge in the world, but easing yourself mentally throughout ensures you remain calm and less likely to produce errors.
You are an angel!
 
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AS24

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Hey @AS24 I definitely am, their scarcity here has really taught me their value 🥲. On this brighter note, I will split up my thoughts between how to organize your time and then your ideas.

Organizing Time
To ensure you are managing your time well, before you start working through the exercise I advise you to take a few minutes to make a plan. First, take a look at the number of tasks and read the prompts. Then, briefly skim the annexed briefs and readings - but only very briefly. You want to see how many pages of readings you will have per task and how dense those look. Based on this information, make an estimation as to how much time each task or part of the exercise will take compared to the others - ie you might see the first task as requiring about twice the workload of the second and that the third is roughly the same as the second. Then, you should spend around 1/2 of your time on the first, around 1/4 on the second and another 1/4 on the third. However, before dividing the time using the relevant fractions, subtract around 10 minutes from the initial total time: 5 to account for the planning part at the beginning and 5 for contingencies and reviewing spelling and grammar at the end. I think this should be your basic approach, but do keep in mind these further considerations:
  • You may want to make a further separation between the estimated necessary time to do the reading and the estimated necessary time to write your analysis for each part. One of the most significant issues I have had with written exercises has been giving in to the temptation to take more time than I should reading and taking notes; and simultaneously underestimating the time it would take me to write my analysis. In my experience, the materials in these exercises are not that difficult to work through and do not attempt to trip you up, so they do not require that much time. Thus, it might be a good idea to plan ahead how much you want to take on them: it should help you keep yourself in check during the exercise and not let your anxiety and overthinking make you waste precious time by reading the same passages again and again.
  • You may not be able to estimate such a simple fraction split as in my aforementioned example. That is fine, and you definitely should not spend time overthinking this element. Simply go with your gut in making some judgement about the relative workloads and move forward with that. The most important part of this planning is not maximum accuracy in representation of the time each should take, but in providing a rough framework which will enable you to keep yourself to account and thus improve efficiency.
  • If your tasks/parts of the exercise have different priority levels you should adjust your time allocation fractions. I would still aim to have a rough representation of what the workload of each involves but I would also allow adjustments to that to ensure a high quality work product for the most important ones.
Organizing Ideas
As for structuring your thoughts, it is unfortunately more difficult to give very concrete advice, as the right way to go about it will be highly dependent on the details of the exercise. My main advice is to find multiple distinctions between the different categories of information that you will be presenting ; and to organize them under multiple headings. The last thing you want is a huge block of text. It will almost always be more difficult to read and understand and will often also end up confusing your analysis as well. To give some examples of how you can go about this:
  • Split the descriptive part of your writing (where you are essentially summarizing uncontroversial facts) and the analytic one (where you are advancing your opinion based on the aforementioned facts);
  • If your argument is more complex, separate the analysis of the different inferential steps necessary to establish the conclusion;
  • Separate the pros considerations, the cons considerations, and the synthesis view;
  • Split your analysis of the different alternatives based on the facts;
  • Separate your analysis of the relevant considerations based on their class (financial, legal, social, reputational etc) and based on the relevant class of stakeholders (shareholders, clients, the government, the public etc).
Of course, no piece of writing in an AC will need or be capable of supporting categorizations based on all the above. I have only listed some ideas to keep in the back of your mind; once you go through the actual exercise, you should be able to intuitively decide which is the most appropriate and easy for you to use.
Thank you so much!
 
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AnnaHJ12

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It is a pretty relaxed AC compared to others I have had. When you arrive be very proactive and get to know everyone because they might end up in your group. It's better to have already built that sort of rapport beforehand so it makes the group exercise less daunting! Written exercise was an email of a client enquiry about one of their practices. Make sure that you know about their strengths and key practice areas because you will 100% be tested upon this in both the written exercise and interview. In the group exercise we were given a topic to present on with key PESTLE factors to be considered. I did mine last year so I'm not sure if it has changed since but thats my general advice! :)
Thank you thats great advice !
 
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m.phan

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I just wanted to thank everyone for the openess on this forum. I am a first year law student and is very helpful.

I did some research on some firms and have a question about written exercise. does this website allow personal message and are members ok with personal contact to ask questions? I am sorry I only found this forum recently so i am trying to go through more pages a
 
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Divyani Jethwa

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The truth is, you don’t have to discuss a deal to succeed in an AC. Many firms work on similar deals, so unless the deal you are referencing has a unique aspect to it, then you will find it difficult to show demonstrated interest. If you really want to discuss a deal, you may find it worthwhile considering the below aspects:

  • Overview of deal itself.
  • Position/effect in market.
  • Firm’s advisory role to link to their strength in a specific practice.

NB: This list is non-exhaustive.
Hi Amma,

I was wondering what you would recommend to discuss when asked 'why this firm' in an interview? Do you go for particular talking points each time and how in depth would you recommend going?
 

Life_of_PFOs

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Mar 13, 2024
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sorry about the bad news, but if you wouldn't mind me asking what you felt was particularly hard about the AC and if they gave you any feedback
The case study was particularly hard. I had 90 minutes to read 8 pages of information, and prepare a presentation based on what I had read. It was very time-pressured: I barely had time to read through everything.

The rejection email didn't contain any feedback, but I have emailed them to ask for it. I will let you know when they respond.
 

bsh

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I did an AC last week and I know people have already gotten PFOs or offers very soon after the day they did it but I still haven't heard back. What could this mean?
Doesn’t mean anything in particular I don’t think. Perhaps just that they are still reviewing your performance. I waited over two weeks before getting my VS offer this cycle
 
Hi! Random stress question, was just checking over my application to Wedlake Bell & realised I'd signed off the cover letter with the wrong application number (the application number I had for my open day application in November, rather than my vs application 😭).

The specific instructions were 'Please sign off the letter with your application reference number rather than your name as Wedlake Bell operates an anonymous application review.'.

Should I contact grad rec about this? Or do I just leave it and hope for the best?
 

Chris Brown

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Just to clarify, this was not just for one Open Day. We were asked to rank the three based on our preference/availability
So is it possible you don’t get your first choice but you can still get an open day invite for the second and third choices? 🙂

I would imagine if that is the case then people hearing back now might have chosen the first open day as their first choice and got it. Everyone else still has a chance but perhaps for their second or third preference. 🙂
 

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