TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

[NJS]

Why is everyone so fixated on London then? It seems to be London or nothing for most people.

I applied regional app previous years - but am thinking of London now purely cos that's where my mates will be.

one of the biggest commercial hubs in the world, we are quite lucky that we have it tbh, lots of opportunity if you want to take it i guess

 

[Tintin06]

Why is everyone so fixated on London then? It seems to be London or nothing for most people.

I applied regional app previous years - but am thinking of London now purely cos that's where my mates will be.

More jobs is part of why. Most firms are based in London. Some only have London offices here. Most US firms if not all. Obviously the London-centric economy we've got. Some want to earn lots there. Then they'll move out and commute. Buy more property outside of London. Plus hybrid working then (for some). I wouldn't want to commute though. Still, each to their own ultimately. Remote/hybrid working isn't always possible either. Much emphasis on returning to offices. Rightly or wrongly, that's the trend. Best of luck with your apps.

 

[A worried graduate]

Why is everyone so fixated on London then? It seems to be London or nothing for most people.

I applied regional app previous years - but am thinking of London now purely cos that's where my mates will be.

It’s that the largest firms are based there , highest salaries and usually first dibs on work as well as having foreign clients usually flow through there.

 

[A worried graduate]

More jobs is part of why. Most firms are based in London. Some only have London offices here. Most US firms if not all. Obviously the London-centric economy we've got. Some want to earn lots there. Then they'll move out and commute. Buy more property outside of London. Plus hybrid working then (for some). I wouldn't want to commute though. Still, each to their own ultimately. Remote/hybrid working isn't always possible either. Much emphasis on returning to offices. Rightly or wrongly, that's the trend. Best of luck with your apps.

You have mentioned something very true there

Going up the ranks tends to move people away rather than towards living near London.

One of the perks of being allowed hybrid is that these partners don’t have to commute as much.

 

[Chris Brown]

Does anyone know whether Orrick pay for the course fees for the GDL or SQE?

I think in their graduate recruitment brochure thing (2024/25) it mentions they pay full course fees for the SQE and provide £1,000 per month as a maintenance grant. I imagine this is £10,000 - £12,000 as a grant. I don’t know whether Orrick pays for the GDL. I have put the link to the brochure thing below:

https://media.orrick.com/Media%20Library/public/files/careers/london-recruitment-brochure-2024-2025.pdf

 

[lina.b]

When answering 'why this firm' in an AC, how different should your answer be from your application form? I was planning to use the same points and expand upon these further, but I was wondering whether it would be more advisable to have new points ready?

 

[theone132213]

Hey all -

I received a VS offer and am being asked whether I would prefer the summer or spring scheme. As I think is the norm, spring is only one week, whilst summer is two. I am very unsure as to what choice could be better and would really appreciate any advice.

Whilst two weeks could be more beneficial in showing off abilities and also gives more time to prep, spring would be over quicker and requires less holiday days off from work. I did also consider that the spring cohort might be tougher, with there being more individuals who are currently working rather than recent graduates/ at uni.

Has anyone dealt with a similar dilemma and/or has any advice on how to choose?

 

[A worried graduate]

When answering 'why this firm' in an AC, how different should your answer be from your application form? I was planning to use the same points and expand upon these further, but I was wondering whether it would be more advisable to have new points ready?

I’d maybe try to expand in a way that the word count limits such as going into a particular deal or case or a past open day etc.

 

[A worried graduate]

Hey all -

I received a VS offer and am being asked whether I would prefer the summer or spring scheme. As I think is the norm, spring is only one week, whilst summer is two. I am very unsure as to what choice could be better and would really appreciate any advice.

Whilst two weeks could be more beneficial in showing off abilities and also gives more time to prep, spring would be over quicker and requires less holiday days off from work. I did also consider that the spring cohort might be tougher, with there being more individuals who are currently working rather than recent graduates/ at uni.

Has anyone dealt with a similar dilemma and/or has any advice on how to choose?

Maybe see if firms offer TCs after the spring vs is done as if so, there might be less spaces in the summer.

 

[Tintin06]

Hey all -

I received a VS offer and am being asked whether I would prefer the summer or spring scheme. As I think is the norm, spring is only one week, whilst summer is two. I am very unsure as to what choice could be better and would really appreciate any advice.

Whilst two weeks could be more beneficial in showing off abilities and also gives more time to prep, spring would be over quicker and requires less holiday days off from work. I did also consider that the spring cohort might be tougher, with there being more individuals who are currently working rather than recent graduates/ at uni.

Has anyone dealt with a similar dilemma and/or has any advice on how to choose?

I agree with what’s been said. Check when they give out TCs. Future Trainees’ LinkedIns will help here. You can also email/call the firm. I made this mistake last year. All TC offers came in summer. Spring scheme wasn’t therefore particularly advantageous.

 

[theone132213]

Maybe see if firms offer TCs after the spring vs is done as if so, there might be less spaces in the summer.

thanks! So are you suggesting that they don't usually allocate a set number of TC spaces for each?

 

[billyonthespeeddial]

thanks! So are you suggesting that they don't usually allocate a set number of TC spaces for each?

They almost certainly won't. They want the best candidates, and there's a chance all of them could be in one scheme. Even where firms offer right after the scheme, sometimes they'll offer way less or way more than their usual rate

 

[Jessica Booker]

When answering 'why this firm' in an AC, how different should your answer be from your application form? I was planning to use the same points and expand upon these further, but I was wondering whether it would be more advisable to have new points ready?

I wouldn’t expect the themes to be different but I would expect the way in which it is presented and the depth of answer to be different, so expanding as you have suggested is going to be a good approach to take.

I don’t think you need new points unless something has developed or changed since your application form.

 

[Jessica Booker]

Hey all -

I received a VS offer and am being asked whether I would prefer the summer or spring scheme. As I think is the norm, spring is only one week, whilst summer is two. I am very unsure as to what choice could be better and would really appreciate any advice.

Whilst two weeks could be more beneficial in showing off abilities and also gives more time to prep, spring would be over quicker and requires less holiday days off from work. I did also consider that the spring cohort might be tougher, with there being more individuals who are currently working rather than recent graduates/ at uni.

Has anyone dealt with a similar dilemma and/or has any advice on how to choose?

I would go with what works best for you. Standards across the scheme will be the same - one scheme will not be more competitive than the other as the firm will apply standards across them.

The only difference is the amount of time but whether it’s a 1 or 2 week scheme, it will be a whirlwind anyway.

 

[Jessica Booker]

They almost certainly won't. They want the best candidates, and there's a chance all of them could be in one scheme. Even where firms offer right after the scheme, sometimes they'll offer way less or way more than their usual rate

It exceptionally unlikely that a firm would offer all TC places from one scheme. Even if that was going to happen they could always offer the next intake to the following scheme. But it’s just much more likely they will have a very high benchmark to meet and will select carefully rather than over offering from one scheme.

Just as easily as firms can over offer into the next intake, they can also easily under offer and use the next recruitment cycle to back fill any unfilled spots.

 

[MR10]

has anyone applied to Brabners? Is there a SJT test after?

 

[pcarey]

Has anyone received a rejection email from Mishcon summer VS following their written application?

I know many people have received VI invites, but I am unclear as to whether anyone has been formally rejected. I am tempted to email them given that they said they aimed to respond by mid-february.

 

[Kakaboo]

Hello, does anyone have any advice for the assessment centre group interview task on how to prepare? I am terrified of someone asking me to talk more

 

[Tintin06]

Holding myself accountable again (Milbank rejection)

CC* ✅📝❌
HSF ✅📝❌
NRF ✅📝❌
Weil ✅❌
Akin ✅❌
Sidley ✅❌
Orrick ✅
Willkie ✅🎥❌
Cooley ✅❌
Latham ✅❌
Milbank ✅❌
Kirkland ✅❌
Dechert ✅❌
Skadden ✅❌
Goodwin ✅❌
Covington ✅❌
Linklaters* ✅📝❌
Paul, Weiss ✅❌
Slaughters* ✅❌
Freshfields* ✅📝❌
Fried Frank* ✅
Gibson Dunn ✅
Macfarlanes* ✅📝
White & Case ✅❌
Morgan Lewis ✅📞❌
Paul Hastings* ✅
White & Case* ✅
Hogan Lovells* ✅📝
Cleary Gottlieb ✅❌
A&O Shearman ✅📝❌
Vinson & Elkins ✅❌
Arnold & Porter ✅
Baker McKenzie ✅📝❌
King & Spalding* ✅
Winston & Strawn ✅
Morrison Foerster ✅
Sullivan & Cromwell ✅❌

Key: ✅ = application submitted; 📝 = test received; 📞 = telephone interview; 🎥 = video interview; ❌ = rejection.

*Training Contract applications.

 

[lawstudent2]

Hi @Bread and @pcarey I saw you guys liked the burges salmon post AC question, just wondering when you heard back and if you could share if it was positive or negative news as I am still waiting and am trying to figure out my chances. Thanks