I am so sorry, did they send it just now?? Oh mate, I would offer you a beer!hsf pfo
no stress its nothing bigI am so sorry, did they send it just now?? Oh mate, I would offer you a beer!
Well done!! 👏👏It may be automatic, but I’ll take the (small) win.
Unfortunately international students cannot complete Winter schemes, for Spring vacation schemes it depends on the dates of the scheme and your university term dates. I, as an international student, was able to do a spring scheme because it was outside of term time.Is it true international students cannot complete Winter and Spring vacation schemes? Only Summer?
Your work experience is likely to be included elsewhere in your application, so won’t need repeating, and it’s likely the awards and prizes would be too.hi peeps
so for the 'why me' section of a cover letter - what exactly do they want to know? Do I write about my work experience -
ie for job X found creative ways to teach the alphabet and then apply how that would make me a good solicitor?
or is it awards and prizes I won?
i find this part especially cringe
As strange as it can seem, you need to be able to engage with your experiences in a way that they distinguish you from your peers.hi peeps
so for the 'why me' section of a cover letter - what exactly do they want to know? Do I write about my work experience -
ie for job X found creative ways to teach the alphabet and then apply how that would make me a good solicitor?
or is it awards and prizes I won?
i find this part especially cringe
They got tests now? tfIt may be automatic, but I’ll take the (small) win.
There are hardly any firms with no tests. I can only think of Slaughter and May. and Travers Smith for UK firms. Again, I find it odd how insanely profitable US firms get by using CV and cover letter when less profitable firms don't. I guess there's a lot of self-selection at the higher end and it's probably easier being in GR at a US firm because people don't apply out of imposter syndrome more often than with a firm like A&O which every Tom, Dick and Harry seems to apply to, so you have to have more barriers to entry etc. I may be wrong. I guess I just prefer subjective processes. I'm better at interviews than the WG etc.They got tests now? tf
Many US firms will have a higher application to vacancy ratio, but effectively can afford to be super selective on other things rather than reading applications holistically (and probably even fully). They will filter out much more quickly based on what they see in an application in just a quick a way as seeing the results from a WG test.There are hardly any firms with no tests. I can only think of Slaughter and May. and Travers Smith for UK firms. Again, I find it odd how insanely profitable US firms get by using CV and cover letter when less profitable firms don't. I guess there's a lot of self-selection at the higher end and it's probably easier being in GR at a US firm because people don't apply out of imposter syndrome more often than with a firm like A&O which every Tom, Dick and Harry seems to apply to, so you have to have more barriers to entry etc. I may be wrong. I guess I just prefer subjective processes. I'm better at interviews than the WG etc.
Fair point. I guess UK firms are more transparent in what they assess? Another thought was that for a lot of the US firms their UK recruitment processes still have the ink drying on them so maybe SJTs, WGs etc will come with time? Idk. I've found that they're quick to use VIs e.g. V&E, Willkie etc this is the second stage, whereas with most UK firms it would be a WG or SJT.Many US firms will have a higher application to vacancy ratio, but effectively can afford to be super selective on other things rather than reading applications holistically (and probably even fully). They will filter out much more quickly based on what they see in an application in just a quick a way as seeing the results from a WG test.
I don’t think US firms are profitable because of their selection processes in the U.K. though.
Add sidleyFair point. I guess UK firms are more transparent in what they assess? Another thought was that for a lot of the US firms their UK recruitment processes still have the ink drying on them so maybe SJTs, WGs etc will come with time? Idk. I've found that they're quick to use VIs e.g. V&E, Willkie etc this is the second stage, whereas with most UK firms it would be a WG or SJT.
I don't know if anyone else has had this sinking feeling that you more or less have to get JobTestPrep to have a chance in WGs. I'm sure that's not true, but it feels like an arms race. Sorry if anyone on here is an affiliate marketer for JobTestPrep!
On the topic of diversity, I'm struck by the Oxbridge dominance at many of the US firms. Kirkland & Ellis 50%, Milbank 53%!
On the diversity point, that is probably one of the key ways they can quickly select people - it won’t just be the university they attend, but also the grades people have to get into that university and then the grades they have achieved while there. It’s one way to be super selective and quickly make decisions. That’s very much like the US model of recruitment where they effectively headhunt the best students at key universities.Fair point. I guess UK firms are more transparent in what they assess? Another thought was that for a lot of the US firms their UK recruitment processes still have the ink drying on them so maybe SJTs, WGs etc will come with time? Idk. I've found that they're quick to use VIs e.g. V&E, Willkie etc this is the second stage, whereas with most UK firms it would be a WG or SJT.
I don't know if anyone else has had this sinking feeling that you more or less have to get JobTestPrep to have a chance in WGs. I'm sure that's not true, but it feels like an arms race. Sorry if anyone on here is an affiliate marketer for JobTestPrep!
On the topic of diversity, I'm struck by the Oxbridge dominance at many of the US firms: Goodwin Procter 40%, Sidley Austin 44%, Akin 46%, Ropes & Gray 48%, Kirkland & Ellis 50%, Milbank 53%!
If you are getting to ACs then fundamentally you have a application that means firms want to hire you.any advice for staying motivated during this application cycle? this is my third application cycle, and while I have gone past written application stage for my previous application cycles, I can't seem to succeed past the AC stage...any advice for staying motivated and positive during the vac scheme/ tc application cycles