TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2023-24

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axelbeugre

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hello @Jessica Booker ! I did an AC a couple weeks ago and the firm said they’d get back to me within a week but I haven’t heard yet. What could this mean? Should I be preparing myself for a pfo or does it mean they liked me enough not to pfo straight away but not enough to offer straight away?

Should I email to follow up or wait patiently for their reply? I don’t want to come across as impatient!
I personally think that it is never beneficial to think too much into things after an assessment centre. The perceptions that you have about how it went are more often than not completely wrong and so just wait for the result!

I know it is easier said than done and I was like you when I was applying last year but objectively speaking overthinking the situation is not beneficial to you and that is what matters the most. Instead, flip the narrative and focus on the fact that you were able to attend an assessment centre with a firm you are interested in as this is a privilege that not many get to experience and be hopeful that they saw your potential.

I am sure you performed way better than what you think.

I would email them after the end of the 2 weeks mark if you really want to know the outcome. I am sure the firm is probably really busy these days.
 

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I was just doing the Simmons & Simmons Blended Assessment and when I reached the VI stage, it says “Thank you for completing the Simmons & Simmons online assessment” before I could even read the question. I didn’t answer a single question and they’ve already sent me a feedback report. 😭 I’m gonna try contacting the firm but I’m anxious coz my deadline is today/tomorrow.
 
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Regretting taking out my 'helping clients tackle literal and figurative unchartered waters' when talking about the shipping sector and its fueling changes in my SH application.

At the time felt grad recruitment might have found it incredibly cringy.
me describing every shipping law firm I apply to as the client’s “first port of call”
 
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    Ferrari and Tesla are not competitors
    Well to be very honest they are competitors, both have increasingly bolstered their presence in the EV sector. To give you an example you can research it Tesla has a model called Tesla Model X, whereas Ferrari has the model called SF90 Stradale!

    If I would compare the both, I would say the Stradale is a beaut! Tesla’s are for computer science geeks, people that don’t have class lmao!
     

    LillyandSilver

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    How do interviews based on the application form vary from blind interviews? What kinds of questions can I expect? I assume less competency but will they really question things like my motivation for applying and/or throw in some unexpected questions?
    From my experience, there are a set number of questions which are kind of standard, like why law, why a solicitor and not a barrister (depending on your work experience), why did you choose your A levels, why did you choose your degree? Then they normally throw in an "I see you have this on your CV, can you tell us more about it? What did this entail? How did you get the experience? What did you learn from it? Is there anything that you would do differently? I've had some rogue questions thrown in, like one place asked "Would you consider yourself a competitive person?"
     

    bangarangbass39

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    From my experience, there are a set number of questions which are kind of standard, like why law, why a solicitor and not a barrister (depending on your work experience), why did you choose your A levels, why did you choose your degree? Then they normally throw in an "I see you have this on your CV, can you tell us more about it? What did this entail? How did you get the experience? What did you learn from it? Is there anything that you would do differently? I've had some rogue questions thrown in, like one place asked "Would you consider yourself a competitive person?"
    Interesting questions, which firms asked these questions? I'm interested.
     

    laby201

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    How do people obtain off-cycle internships/shadowing experiences?

    I know these opportunities exist because people on LinkedIn have random work experience entries where the dates don't align with vac scheme dates or the work experience lasts for over a month. How do they find out about these and how can I?
    Unless you're lucky, I'd say there's a strong chance it's nepotism based.

    I emailed about 15 firms last summer asking for a week of informal work experience and didn't hear back from 14 and 1 said it wasn't something they offered. I just think the legal sphere is so competitive these days that unless you have connections or get onto an arranged scheme, work experience is incredibly difficult to come by.

    I had a housemate last year who managed to source two weeks' worth of work experience. Unsurprisingly, that was obtained through a friend of her dad's. Connections are needed in many instances, unfortunately.
     

    Seven

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    I know about the legal nepo babies but is there any other way.

    I know schemes like 10000 black and able interns exists but just wanted to see if there are any other similar schemes.
    The Brokerage, Generation Success Mentoring, SEO London and upReach do a good job of advertising legal internships and providing exclusive ones too.
     
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    bangarangbass39

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    How do people obtain off-cycle internships/shadowing experiences?

    I know these opportunities exist because people on LinkedIn have random work experience entries where the dates don't align with vac scheme dates or the work experience lasts for over a month. How do they find out about these and how can I?
    You have to dig deep. But more often than not (when it comes to shadowing Gov Professionals/Counsels/etc) it's through "networking". Typically they know someone who knows someone. Some people with this experience will say it's because they "just sent an email in" with their CV, but it's only allowed because they can mention that they know someone that the professional/company networks with.

    I realised this when I got my mentor at the start of my MA. He runs a Social Strategy firm in LDN. He informed me that in big roles for internships (not organised), they usually ask interviewees who they know etc. They wanna vet you out for your connects! This was made more clear when my diss supervisor gave me access to academics he knew from all over the country. And once I met them, they mentioned more people that they knew so it became a snowball effect. Sadly that's how it works. You mostly get access to these things because of your connection. I have not encountered anyone who gained an off-cycle experience without knowing someone. That's not to say that an alternative approach doesn't exist, but I have not seen anything outside of this. Grad scheme and general internships are the best bet!

    I was so upset not securing a grad role or internship during uni, especially compared to my friends. But when I asked how they got their gigs the overwhelming amount got it because of their parent's STRONG connections.

    My friend got a Wank of England Internship cause his mom's a big-time journalist for the BBC and had connects in the company - now he's on the grad scheme. Another friend interned for her Dad's journalism NGO (which he founded), and now she's in PR. The list could go on and on.
     

    Lawyer500

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    Mishcon holding email this morning. Funny because before receiving it I was convinced they'd only send it to people they want to progress to the next round but now I don't know what to make of it 😅
    I’m 99% sure it’s to do with when you submitted the VI, just to keep clear communication with the candidates, I think it could even be an automated one as mine was sent about 2 weeks after I submitted! I don’t think it has anything to do with if you’ve progressed or not!
     
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