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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2023-24

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InvesmentBanker

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Does anyone know what the seat options are during a TC at 2Birds? I can't find it anywhere on their website and graduate recruitment aren't responding.

I'm especially wondering whether there are mandatory seats and/or TMT option.
Trainees will typically complete at least one seat in the commercial team (one of their largest departments) and commonly IP. A contentious seat is mandatory. Seat options will also include corporate, regulatory & competition, finance, construction & real estate, employment and few others.
 
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InvesmentBanker

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My advice if you are applying for vacation schemes - check the VS to TC conversion rate.

A lot of firms have incredibly low ratios, making it really difficult to convert - even if you are a great candidate (often US firms). In contrast, some firms (example: MC, CMS, DLA, Eversheds, Dentons etc.) almost guarantee a TC if you get the VS.

Failing to convert a VS can be really disappointing, especially when you put in your best effort. That is why I would recommend sending your strongest applications to firms that have a higher conversion rate.
 

Marissa

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My advice if you are applying for vacation schemes - check the VS to TC conversion rate.

A lot of firms have incredibly low ratios, making it really difficult to convert - even if you are a great candidate (often US firms). In contrast, some firms (example: MC, CMS, DLA, Eversheds, Dentons etc.) almost guarantee a TC if you get the VS.

Failing to convert a VS can be really disappointing, especially when you put in your best effort. That is why I would recommend sending your strongest applications to firms that have a higher conversion rate.
hey, thanks for the tip but how do you suppose we can check this? wouldn't it be internal data of the firm, cus I don't remember seeing any firm that publishes such data (unless I am missing something). I have only seen data on retention rates.
 
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hey, thanks for the tip but how do you suppose we can check this? wouldn't it be internal data of the firm, cus I don't remember seeing any firm that publishes such data (unless I am missing something). I have only seen data on retention rates.
Agreed, it would be good if there was a breakdown somewhere with this data (although the list of firms provided earlier was good). Does anyone also have an insight into what the conversion process is like for different firms. I.e. post vac scheme interviews/feedback from your supervisors, or do some VS just fast track you to a TC AC (in which case is it really worth it if one can also do a direct TC application)?
 
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AlexJ

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    Agreed, it would be good if there was a breakdown somewhere with this data (although the list of firms provided earlier was good). Does anyone also have an insight into what the conversation process is like for different firms. I.e. post vac scheme interviews/feedback from your supervisors, or do some VS just fast track you to a TC AC (in which case is it really worth it if one can also do a direct TC application)?
    This depends a lot:

    Some firms will set assessments during/ at the end of a VS and only assess through those assessments

    Some firms will do assessments and judge based on these and feedback from supervisors

    Some firms set no assessments at all and purely base it off feedback on performance.

    However a VS is assessed, doing the scheme is a great experience and will give you the deepest possible insight into a firm without working there, helping you in interviews as well as also being helpful for future applications even if you don’t convert.
     
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