TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2022-23

[avyanka09]

Hey, I had the same experience, the vast majority was mid, a few low and 0 high. And I also feel like it was extremely inaccurate. I actually took many supervised IQ / EQ / Personality tests that were more extensive in the past years. I can safely say that they contradict most of the results I got. My psychiatrist would burst out laughing if she was told that I am "motivated to maintain a sense of predictability once a situation becomes familiar".

All in all, it looks quite random to me, which is very frustrating given the time I spent attempting the final task (and on my application more broadly). The faces looked nothing like real humans (sorry if I can't read the emotions of aliens?), and many of the games were actually quite laggy / buggy at times, although I have a brand-new PC and perfect wifi.

Sorry for all the details, but if my rant can help any of you take the whole thing less personally, that's at least something positive coming out of my experience 🥲

Heya, thank you so much for being so candid, and it certainly has been reassuring to know that I am not the only one feeling hopeless with the assessment! I hope you don't mind, but I have dropped a response sharing more of my thoughts on the assessment too.

 

[Turnthisstupidfatratyellow]

Does anyone know if Watson Farley & Williams’ VI is automatic? I applied on Saturday and am quite surprised at how quickly they’ve responded to me. I also don’t have any business attire, because I’m visiting family and am unsure how to carry out a VI without more professional clothing 😬 Would be grateful for any help.

Is this for TC or VS?

 

[WAL007]

Guys - I have applied for Pinsent Masons earlier this year for TC but got rejected. I am tempted to apply for the VS and not the TC and was wondering whether I could do this without waiting for 6 months?

 

[futuretraineecity]

Does anyone have any advice or previous experience of a CMS AC? Thank you in advance 😊

 

[Adrian_S]

Is this for TC or VS?

VS

 

[TheBestSolicitorInTheWorld]

Lmao brudda thinks he’s entitled to a VS for attending their open day 💀

your score just wasn’t as high as the others bro

Okay, this isn't the nicest way to see it obviously. BUT, this commenter is not wrong. Just because you did an open day/ insight scheme with a firm does not mean that you should automatically be granted a vacation scheme. That would literally be legal nepotism lol. You have people who do full vacation schemes and are still rejected from a TC.

You are not owed anything just because you did an application and travelled to London. There are international students who travel CONTINENTS and do the SAME schemes so your point is redundant.

If you truly want to get in just because you did a scheme in the past, apply to CC. They let people who did forage internships have a 3x higher chance of getting in compared to everyone else.

My point is: what the commenter said was kinda rude but, you're not owed anything just because you've done a long application process or open day.

 

[Jessica Booker]

Okay, this isn't the nicest way to see it obviously. BUT, this commenter is not wrong. Just because you did an open day/ insight scheme with a firm does not mean that you should automatically be granted a vacation scheme. That would literally be legal nepotism lol. You have people who do full vacation schemes and are still rejected from a TC.

You are not owed anything just because you did an application and travelled to London. There are international students who travel CONTINENTS and do the SAME schemes so your point is redundant.

If you truly want to get in just because you did a scheme in the past, apply to CC. They let people who did forage internships have a 3x higher chance of getting in compared to everyone else.

My point is: what the commenter said was kinda rude but, you're not owed anything just because you've done a long application process or open day.

What I would stress is it is not that Clifford Chance "let" people who did their Forage internship have a 3x higher chance of getting through, they have just found that those who have done the programmes have a three times higher chance of getting through.

 

[TheBestSolicitorInTheWorld]

What I would stress is it is not that Clifford Chance "let" people who did their Forage internship have a 3x higher chance of getting through, they have just found that those who have done the programmes have a three times higher chance of getting through.

But they have found that they have a higher chance because they are the ones letting them in right?

 

[Uvaia]

Okay, this isn't the nicest way to see it obviously. BUT, this commenter is not wrong. Just because you did an open day/ insight scheme with a firm does not mean that you should automatically be granted a vacation scheme. That would literally be legal nepotism lol. You have people who do full vacation schemes and are still rejected from a TC.

You are not owed anything just because you did an application and travelled to London. There are international students who travel CONTINENTS and do the SAME schemes so your point is redundant.

If you truly want to get in just because you did a scheme in the past, apply to CC. They let people who did forage internships have a 3x higher chance of getting in compared to everyone else.

My point is: what the commenter said was kinda rude but, you're not owed anything just because you've done a long application process or open day.

I am not sure if you read the OP, but they didn't say they expected to "automatically be granted" a VS. They were disappointed they didn't even get "a TI for the Vac Scheme". 😊

 

[CorpLawyer00]

But they have found that they have a higher chance because they are the ones letting them in right?

Could be a multitude of factors - maybe if you’ve done a forage internship you tailor your application better. It might be a higher percentage of Oxbridge students do one for whatever reason, they might be told to by their careers service so that is reflected in the end figures. Could also be that more hard working students opt to do one, and their hard work is also reflected in grades/uni they attend. You can’t just do a univariate analysis and say it’s because they are letting them in because they did it

 

[DimpledHopper]

But they have found that they have a higher chance because they are the ones letting them in right?

Correlation is not causation. Candidates who do the Forage internship have a higher chance of getting an interview/offer because -- as @CorpSmith02 mentions -- they may have a deeper insight into the firm's work and create a more tailored application. Completing the Forage internship doesn't automatically mean you're given a 3x chance of progressing if you can't then show what you've learnt from the internship.

 

[WAL007]

Genuinely curious - how does Skadden decide if you 'score' high enough? I was extended offers to both their Open Day and Insight Evening and I referred to both in my application (and used the tips from them to apply). How do I make it to both of those but don't even get a TI for the Vac Scheme - what even is the point in extending me offers for the events then?

Spent so long on the application fml (inclusive of attending both events and traveling to London to attend in person)

I say keep going. For most of us including me, it was challenging to even secure a place for open days as these are at times competitive as vacations schemes so you securing these places is feat itself. In terms of time spent on application, sometimes its just the fact that the firm are recruiting on a rolling basis etc. I wouldn't be disheartened from this setback. Onwards and upwards from here! 🤜

 

[born&raised]

Has anyone who applied to Hogan Lovells in end December still not received the Watson Glaser?

 

[therealellewoods]

Does anyone know if Covington recruit on a rolling basis? I read online it doesn't but not sure if its outdated

 

[S87]

Does anyone know if Covington recruit on a rolling basis? I read online it doesn't but not sure if its outdated

It doesn’t

 

[Ald]

Mishcon VI invite!

I would really appreciate any advice and tips on how to approach the video interview and the type of questions asked!

Congrats! When did u apply?

 

[therealellewoods]

Also has anyone applied to Fried Frank and able to confirm the deadline and application process? do we literally just email the PDF form to grad rec? seems so weird

 

[Sophh182]

Can anyone provide any tips or advice on the Mills & Reeve online assessment? Not sure what to expect

 

[Sachin Chandra]

Unrelated to Training Contract apps but I'm also doing a proposal for a research project. The deadline is in two weeks. Would anyone clean up the referencing and bibliography for a fee? It's only a 800 word piece of writing

 

[Future Six Figure Fee Earner]

Can anyone provide any tips or advice on the Mills & Reeve online assessment? Not sure what to expect

it's similar to AO SJT. There's a 500 word Q at the end also