Started from the bottom

ohnoselim

Valued Member
Dec 21, 2023
108
89
oh my i just looked at the sqe prep courses alone thinking itll be way cheaper than the sqe llm

ur telling me 5k-6k each and then you have to pay to a separate fee to just sit the exam thats like 1.5k each

so its roughly adding up to 12k and that doesnt include books youll buy or travel to get there

if i knew this i wouldve started working before i got my national insurance number 😭
 

Legalstalker

Legendary Member
Premium Member
  • Oct 9, 2023
    420
    1,792
    my options are looking slim

    im not sure if its worth funding just the sqe prep courses alone - id have to get a job and save up quick but even the job market is horrendous for standard labour jobs

    sqe masters llm is a no go, cant use the loan there for religious reasons

    options for a firm to fund me are slim as well rejection loves me right now

    my back up that is becoming impossible too is paralegal, earn some money whilst getting some good experience and keep applying for tcs, thats slim too again because rejection loves me- i have an interview with accutrainee but i think they kind of just place you anywhere- if anyone has any experience here it would be good to know 😐


    ive realised with me is that i cant sit around and do nothing, the break has been nice but its overdone now, i need something to do
    Go and travel! Get a working holiday visa and work abroad whilst applying to direct TC’s from September. You’ll gain a wealth of experience and can definitely hone on wanting to work at an international firm if that’s what you want?

    I’m in the same boat as you, it’s looking slim my future is shrivelling up as I speak but travelling is helping me get through it. I’ve not looked at my emails waiting for firms to get back to me as much. I have more motivation to write applications. Change your environment.

    I believe you’ll get there for sure you’re sooo determined! x
     
    • Like
    Reactions: hopefulforatc

    ohnoselim

    Valued Member
    Dec 21, 2023
    108
    89
    Go and travel! Get a working holiday visa and work abroad whilst applying to direct TC’s from September. You’ll gain a wealth of experience and can definitely hone on wanting to work at an international firm if that’s what you want?

    I’m in the same boat as you, it’s looking slim my future is shrivelling up as I speak but travelling is helping me get through it. I’ve not looked at my emails waiting for firms to get back to me as much. I have more motivation to write applications. Change your environment.

    I believe you’ll get there for sure you’re sooo determined! x
    unfortunately asian household i cant travel 😭

    thats so cool that youre travelling and working, defo making your applications interesting fr

    well both get thereeee your posts really be inspiring others!!!
     

    Legalstalker

    Legendary Member
    Premium Member
  • Oct 9, 2023
    420
    1,792
    updated statz

    applications made:
    15
    rejections: 12
    rejected post VI or test :
    4 (Taylor Wessing, Trowers, Bristows, Browne Jacobson)
    waiting to hear back from:
    Brandsmiths VS
    Freeths (completed assessment)
    Wiggin TC
    Keep pushing!!!

    There are still quite a few direct Tc applications open and most don’t close till end of next month.

    You can reapply for SH I’m pretty sure? I emailed them and they said I could (I didn’t compete the assessments did Vs) but I think anyone can repapply. practice those tests again in the meantime. If your application was great no need to change it. Just apply and hope for the best. Not everyone converts and to think they did a video interview to VS offer is wild (amazing but crazy) there will be people who got that VS that are not a fit for the firm but passed those tests with flying by colours.

    Farrer is hard because they have 3 vac scheme’s two of them haven’t even commenced yet. Plus their vac scheme students also had to do a Tc application so they reinterview them alongside direct applications it’s a lot in a short space. I don’t think they would’ve taken lots for direct tc, so that’s really a numbers thing rather then a bad application.

    this cycle is horrific for sure no mercy either 😭 but the constant rejections will make that offer sweeter? I think? I pray I hope 😭
     

    ohnoselim

    Valued Member
    Dec 21, 2023
    108
    89
    Keep pushing!!!

    There are still quite a few direct Tc applications open and most don’t close till end of next month.

    You can reapply for SH I’m pretty sure? I emailed them and they said I could (I didn’t compete the assessments did Vs) but I think anyone can repapply. practice those tests again in the meantime. If your application was great no need to change it. Just apply and hope for the best. Not everyone converts and to think they did a video interview to VS offer is wild (amazing but crazy) there will be people who got that VS that are not a fit for the firm but passed those tests with flying by colours.

    Farrer is hard because they have 3 vac scheme’s two of them haven’t even commenced yet. Plus their vac scheme students also had to do a Tc application so they reinterview them alongside direct applications it’s a lot in a short space. I don’t think they would’ve taken lots for direct tc, so that’s really a numbers thing rather then a bad application.

    this cycle is horrific for sure no mercy either 😭 but the constant rejections will make that offer sweeter? I think? I pray I hope 😭
    Reapply in the next cycle defo i dont think it would be for this

    farrer was a beautiful firm on paper, i cant believe they make you do a tc app after doing a vs

    i feel like direct tc's dont get that much grace, not saying that vs does either but most firms recruit a large intake from vs and i have not that much exp in the legal world

    the constant rejections has numbed me 😭, im not that fussed anymore as i used to be but its still a bit like oh-
     

    mfuturetrainee

    Legendary Member
    Gold Member
    Premium Member
  • Sep 21, 2021
    356
    827
    new cycle new me !!

    got a spot on Mischon de reya's open day woop wooop

    im trying to attend open days and push out apps, but im applying to bigger firms, not niches like i did last cycle because its so hard to demonstrate a niche interest when i have zero experience in that area :/
    omg welcome back HOW HAVE U BEEN??
     

    sleepylawyer

    New Member
    Feb 12, 2024
    4
    9
    update bird and bird open day secured woop woop!!
    i need to start submitting actual vs applications now, hoping to get the bulk done by mid november

    why am i scared for WG, i feel like i never get them right besides on the practice tests loool
    hey, andrei forwaded me a forum that is quite helpful when it comes to the wg test, best of luck :)
     
    • Like
    Reactions: ohnoselim

    ohnoselim

    Valued Member
    Dec 21, 2023
    108
    89
    bird and bird spring application submitted=mid nov (hope they actually screen it)

    mischon de reya summer vs submitted


    thats two down, i've definitely learn from the last cycle that applying to every single firm for the sake of it is not for me

    im hoping to do max between 5-6 apps

    its a risk because its less but oh well quality over quantity :)
     
    • Like
    Reactions: yasmars

    justkeepswimming

    Star Member
    Gold Member
    Premium Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
    48
    72
    update bird and bird open day secured woop woop!!
    i need to start submitting actual vs applications now, hoping to get the bulk done by mid november

    why am i scared for WG, i feel like i never get them right besides on the practice tests loool

    With WG tests, what helped me was doing A LOT of practice and almost treating it like a uni module.

    I researched and studied each section and its demands. You can do it through the multiple free resources available on websites like The Lawyer Portal and Job Test Prep that help explain each answer. TCLA have a course on the Watson Glaser, which is super helpful. There's a video on YouTube with Simranjeet Kaur Mann that goes through a test and explains answers as well. This is really good to learn why an answer is right or wrong.

    I would also recommend making your own notes on each section.

    Then, lots of practice. There are a lot of free tests, like firm websites, that you can use. But I did invest in Assessment Day and also Job Test Prep. Complete each test in a quiet and focused environment; it makes a world of difference. Go over your answers at the end. I would even use ChatGPT to help understand certain answers, asking it to explain why this is right. But I would caution the use of ChatGPT because, at times, I felt it wasn't entirely accurate. It was still a tool to try.

    It takes a bit of effort, but you really can conquer WG tests!
     
    • Love
    Reactions: ohnoselim

    Wannabe_Lawyer

    Distinguished Member
    Premium Member
    Jul 22, 2018
    67
    53
    completed my fieldfisher app woop woop
    was it me or was the word count for the questions so short i struggled

    current stats:
    - bird (applied)
    - mishcon (applied)
    - fieldfisher (applied)
    Regarding your fieldfisher app, did you meet the firm in advance? I'm struggling to articulate the 1 experience that led me to apply to the firm...
     

    About Us

    The Corporate Law Academy (TCLA) was founded in 2018 because we wanted to improve the legal journey. We wanted more transparency and better training. We wanted to form a community of aspiring lawyers who care about becoming the best version of themselves.

    Newsletter

    Discover the most relevant business news, access our law firm analysis, and receive our best advice for aspiring lawyers.