TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

Overthinker123!

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Hey all,

Really excited to say that I have received an offer! The partner called last week offering the role. At the end, he said that I have his number now, and I think he said to reach out for any questions or help (which I am pretty sure is what he said, but I was really excited, so idk if I understood it wrong 😭). Would it be appropriate to reach out to arrange a short call because I genuinely have some questions to ask, and it will also help to build rapport? Thanks :)

@Jessica Booker @Andrei Radu @Amma Usman @Ram Sabaratnam
 

legallyrach

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While I have not applied at Paul Hastings nor do I personally know any who interviewed there, I would say the following:
  • Take a look at these two TCLA posts on Paul Hastings Interviews from the 2021/2022 cycle - they might give you some idea about what to expect.
  • Read up on the firm's finance/capital markets practice areas and try to develop an ability to (i) explain the firm's core practice areas in layman terms; and (ii) explain the similarities and differences between the work done in those practices.
Thank you! Just got an email this morning saying that it'll be competency/ motivation & commercial awareness based, so hopefully not too wildly different from anything I've done before.

I'm not too familiar with capital markets and find it quite confusing - is there any way you could simplify the concept and the type of work they do? That would be extremely helpful. And with the commercial awareness, would I benefit from talking about something more finance-based/ a particular M&A deal for instance, or could I speak about something broader like the current tariff war & its implications on PH's clients? If the former is preferred, what kind of things can I speak about that won't just sound like I'm regurgitating knowledge on how a deal is funded/ operates? Thanks so much! :)
 

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Hey all,

Really excited to say that I have received an offer! The partner called last week offering the role. At the end, he said that I have his number now, and I think he said to reach out for any questions or help (which I am pretty sure is what he said, but I was really excited, so idk if I understood it wrong 😭). Would it be appropriate to reach out to arrange a short call because I genuinely have some questions to ask, and it will also help to build rapport? Thanks :)

@Jessica Booker @Andrei Radu @Amma Usman @Ram Sabaratnam
What kind of role is it and what kind of questions would you be asking? I ask as depending on the answers it might be better to ask someone else rather than the partner, even though they have offered.
 

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Hi everyone! In order to apply for Dubai or GCC training contracts, is it necessary to know Arabic? Or can we still apply? Does anyone have any idea about it?

Hiya @Maddy

Great question (it’s one that comes up often for those considering training contracts in the Middle East). From what I’ve seen, many firms offering training contracts in Dubai or the wider GCC region do look for candidates who have a working knowledge of Arabic. Some explicitly state that Arabic is required, while others don’t make it a strict requirement but do mention that they’re particularly interested in bilingual applicants who can speak Arabic. If you're unsure, it’s definitely worth reaching out directly to the graduate recruitment team at the firm you’re interested in. They’ll be able to clarify whether Arabic is essential for that particular role or whether you can still be considered without it. Good luck with any Middle East TC applications!
 

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Thank you! Just got an email this morning saying that it'll be competency/ motivation & commercial awareness based, so hopefully not too wildly different from anything I've done before.

I'm not too familiar with capital markets and find it quite confusing - is there any way you could simplify the concept and the type of work they do? That would be extremely helpful. And with the commercial awareness, would I benefit from talking about something more finance-based/ a particular M&A deal for instance, or could I speak about something broader like the current tariff war & its implications on PH's clients? If the former is preferred, what kind of things can I speak about that won't just sound like I'm regurgitating knowledge on how a deal is funded/ operates? Thanks so much! :)

Hiya @legallyrach

I'm sure @Andrei Radu would have much more to add here, but I wanted to get something to you in the meantime.

Capital markets are platforms where businesses raise funds by issuing financial instruments like stocks and bonds to investors. In the UK, capital markets lawyers often advise both companies (the "issuers" who typically issue stocks and bonds) and financial institutions (the "underwriters", i.e. often the banks who manage the process, price the shares or bonds, and even promise to buy anything investors don’t). Capital markets lawyers will thus advise companies/institutions on everything from Initial Public Offerings, bond issuances, and other securities offerings. When I was applying I found this particular Chambers Student article on capital markets really helpful.

While both capital markets and finance lawyers deal with financial instruments and funding, a firm's finance lawyers typically handle private financing arrangements and loans and can focus on a broader spectrum of financial transactions, including bank lending, project finance, and acquisition finance. This last point about finance is particularly important to bear in mind with respect to PH, given their sizeable strengths in areas such as leveraged finance and real estate finance.

In terms of preparation, I think it's a good idea to be familiar with both recent developments in capital markets (e.g. like how tariffs are affecting IPOs) and one or two specific deals the firm has advised on. Showing that you understand how wider economic or political developments like tariffs (or any other development) impact these markets will signal strong commercial awareness. At the same time, being able to talk about recent deals Paul Hastings has worked on and why you found them interesting helps demonstrate that you’ve done your research and are genuinely interested in the firm’s practice.

Hope this helps and good luck!
 

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Thank you! Just got an email this morning saying that it'll be competency/ motivation & commercial awareness based, so hopefully not too wildly different from anything I've done before.

I'm not too familiar with capital markets and find it quite confusing - is there any way you could simplify the concept and the type of work they do? That would be extremely helpful. And with the commercial awareness, would I benefit from talking about something more finance-based/ a particular M&A deal for instance, or could I speak about something broader like the current tariff war & its implications on PH's clients? If the former is preferred, what kind of things can I speak about that won't just sound like I'm regurgitating knowledge on how a deal is funded/ operates? Thanks so much! :)
Just to add to the great response from @Ram Sabaratnam to understand capital markets I think you need to understand how it contrasts to banking. Both capital markets and banking are fundamentally about the same same things: one party will provide capital to another party that needs it, expecting to obtain some sort of return in exchange. However, in general banking and finance, that comes in the form of loans, which you will already be quite familiar with: you will borrow money from a creditor (normally a bank; or, more recently, private credit funds) who will in return be entitled to periodic payments representing a percentage of the total borrowed sum plus an interest payment. Unless you become default and the loan is also unsecured (ie you have provided no asset as collateral), the creditor should recover the initial sum and obtain a return on it.

Capital markets is also about bringing together parties with lots of capital seeking to generate a return on it (however, here we have a way wider set of investor, from pension funds, hedge funds, and PE firms to retail investors) and parties who are in need of said capital. The basic distinction here is between debt capital markets (DCM) and equity capital markets (ECM). The difference is what is being given in exchange for the capital: either debt most often in the form of bonds for ECM (a promise to give a certain sum of money in return for the supplied capital) - or equity for ECM (a part of the shareholding of a given company).

DCM's bonds might seem at first virtually indistinguishable from loans finance and banking - both involve a party with capital giving it to another in exchange for a legal entitlement to be paid back the initial sum + interest. However, there are a number of crucial differences you should understand:
  1. Bonds are (to introduce another bit of jargon) classified as securities, which essentially just means that they are tradable financial instruments. If you have purchased a bond from a company X, you own an entitlement to certain payments from X and you can easily sell that entitlement to other investors. Thus, I could purchase that bond from you and now company X owes me the payment instead. This is a significant advantage for many investors, as it makes bonds highly liquid assets (which is another term of jargon just referring to the fact that they can be easily turned into cash if need be). Loans, on the other hand, are not by themselves tradeable; they have to first undergo a process called 'securitization' - which just refers to their repackaging into securities that can be similarly traded. Following the 2008 crisis, this is a highly regulated are of finance, which means that the trading of debt in the form of loans involves a more difficult process.
  2. Bonds take a different form to loans: imagine company A needs 1 million dollars to fund a project and wants to pay the debt to a creditor B over a period of 1 year and pay an interest of 5%. Now, if the money is provided in the form of a loan, supposing A agrees on monthly payments, A will need to pay every month 1/12 of the borrowed sum of 1 million (around 83,000 dollars) + the 5% interest of that 1 million (around 4000 dollars). If the capital is provided via the purchase of a bond instead, A will only need to pay back the interest monthly (the 4000 dollars) and then will pay the initial lump sum of 1 million (for which the jargon term is 'the principal') at the end of the year (the jargon for which is 'the maturity date'). While in this scenario the total sum paid back would be 1,050,000 dollars irrespective whether this is a loan or a bond, for many companies the details of when exactly they have to make large payments by matters a lot. In particular, if they expect large increases in revenues at a later date, a company can prefer the later payment of the principal required by a bond.
  3. Commercial loans are more often than not secured over assets, while bonds are more often than not unsecured, making the latter prima facie riskier.
Turning to ECM, I think Ram has already explained well how an initial public offering (IPO) works. The only thing I wanted to add here is that another major part of ECM is secondary offerings: when a company that is already publicly listed wants to issue additional shares to the market - a move that will once again dilute current shareholding in exchange for capital. This can sometimes result in very significant transactions. For instance, Boeing recently raised around $21 billion from a secondary offering.

Finally, as for the work done by the lawyers in both ECM and DCM, it essentially involves the legal work necessary to set up an offering of shares/bonds/other securities in compliance with regulations and on advantageous terms for their clients. To get a clearer picture as to the actual tasks this involves, I would advise you to read this Chambers Article on work in capital markets.
 

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Has anyone completed the sky group interview? Wondering what the format is in terms of timing and how it works interviewing with a group. Thanks!
I did it but not in a group. Was disappointed tbh, would have liked to hear others' answers. It's just 3 VI-style questions, no follow-up, maybe a couple of minutes per question (entirely up to you). Had i been in a group it would have been the same but you'd have got to hear other peoples' answers first (or not, if you are the first one to answer).
 

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Hey all,

Really excited to say that I have received an offer! The partner called last week offering the role. At the end, he said that I have his number now, and I think he said to reach out for any questions or help (which I am pretty sure is what he said, but I was really excited, so idk if I understood it wrong 😭). Would it be appropriate to reach out to arrange a short call because I genuinely have some questions to ask, and it will also help to build rapport? Thanks :)

@Jessica Booker @Andrei Radu @Amma Usman @Ram Sabaratnam
As @Jessica Booker said I think this will depend on the details of your situation, but I think if you have genuine questions that a partner would be well-placed to answer it would likely be fine to take them up on the offer. I was in this situation as well last year when following the VS a partner at a firm called me and offered to keep in contact and answer any questions during the period I was deciding on the TC offer. We ended up having two 15/20 minute conversations which helped me understand the firm's market position, competitors, and strategy in a lot more depth. I could tell the partner did not mind speaking with me at all about this; if anything, they seemed to actually enjoy helping me out.
 

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