Sorry that was your outcome. They did say there would be a winter vacation scheme next cycle so they may be looking at these applications very strictly.
Either way I hope you stay optimistic! The main point is to keep trying
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Either way I hope you stay optimistic! The main point is to keep trying
Why are PW ignoring me like this 💔
Continuously refreshing my emails today😭 shoosmiths discover scheme result is making me so anxious😣
I am assuming PFO. For spring, all the VIs went out on 16th December and then PFO rolled around much later. I think all VI are sent in one batch so that‘s a shame but oh well
Cannot seem to figure out how it’s going for PW. Assuming PFO as I have grown to with all firms, but it seems a fair few invites have been sent out so logistically I don‘t see how more would go out
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Last week it was beginning of the week/ mid week and then Friday. So I’d say stay optimist until the end of the week. It seems as though they are also handing out PFO’s for those who haven’t even been sent an SJT. It seems like they are just getting throughCannot seem to figure out how it’s going for PW. Assuming PFO as I have grown to with all firms, but it seems a fair few invites have been sent out so logistically I don‘t see how more would go out
the deadline is wednesday next week so i wouldn't expect anything this week
Holding myself accountable (Morgan Lewis rejection)
CC* ✅📝❌
HSF ✅📝❌
NRF ✅📝❌
Weil ✅❌
Akin ✅❌
Sidley ✅❌
Orrick ✅
Willkie ✅🎥❌
Cooley ✅❌
Latham ✅❌
Milbank ✅
Kirkland ✅❌
Dechert ✅❌
Skadden ✅❌
Goodwin ✅❌
Covington ✅❌
Linklaters* ✅📝❌
Paul, Weiss ✅❌
Slaughters* ✅❌
Freshfields* ✅📝❌
Fried Frank* ✅
Gibson Dunn ✅
Macfarlanes* ✅📝
White & Case ✅❌
Morgan Lewis ✅📞❌
Paul Hastings* ✅
Hogan Lovells* ✅📝
Cleary Gottlieb ✅❌
A&O Shearman ✅📝❌
Vinson & Elkins ✅❌
Arnold & Porter ✅
Baker McKenzie ✅📝❌
King & Spalding* ✅
Winston & Strawn ✅
Morrison Foerster ✅
Sullivan & Cromwell ✅❌
Key: ✅ = application submitted; 📝 = test received; 📞 = telephone interview; 🎥 = video interview; ❌ = rejection.
*Training Contract applications.
This rejection was honestly pretty tough. I felt the TI went well. I guess that wasn't the case.
CC* ✅📝❌
HSF ✅📝❌
NRF ✅📝❌
Weil ✅❌
Akin ✅❌
Sidley ✅❌
Orrick ✅
Willkie ✅🎥❌
Cooley ✅❌
Latham ✅❌
Milbank ✅
Kirkland ✅❌
Dechert ✅❌
Skadden ✅❌
Goodwin ✅❌
Covington ✅❌
Linklaters* ✅📝❌
Paul, Weiss ✅❌
Slaughters* ✅❌
Freshfields* ✅📝❌
Fried Frank* ✅
Gibson Dunn ✅
Macfarlanes* ✅📝
White & Case ✅❌
Morgan Lewis ✅📞❌
Paul Hastings* ✅
Hogan Lovells* ✅📝
Cleary Gottlieb ✅❌
A&O Shearman ✅📝❌
Vinson & Elkins ✅❌
Arnold & Porter ✅
Baker McKenzie ✅📝❌
King & Spalding* ✅
Winston & Strawn ✅
Morrison Foerster ✅
Sullivan & Cromwell ✅❌
Key: ✅ = application submitted; 📝 = test received; 📞 = telephone interview; 🎥 = video interview; ❌ = rejection.
*Training Contract applications.
This rejection was honestly pretty tough. I felt the TI went well. I guess that wasn't the case.
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Same for Morgan Lewis, just got the PFO 2 mins ago...
Yes I think you are right, they said they will get back to all of us by 28th febthe deadline is wednesday next week so i wouldn't expect anything this week
@Jessica Booker @Andrei Radu (and anyone please chime in if you can help, even if its only relating to a part of my question!!!!)
I apologize in advance for the long message. I just feel very lost and disheartened at the moment.
I just got rejected following my only AC, and I really dont know what to do anymore. It was my only AC and I'm unsure at all how to move forward , especially as I'm an international student, meaning I wont be able to stay in the UK after I graduate next year, if I dont have anything secured, also due to cost issues.
Would you please be able to give me some advice moving forward? I have a great deal of anxiety that I might not even get to an AC next year, and that this year's was only because 1. I had a mentoring scheme relating to the firm and 2. I had mitigating circumstances for my poor first year grades.
I do not have any open days/ mentoring schemes relating to any other firms, so I'm worried that just like this year, I wont get any ACs for those firms next year either, and the only firm for which I had a lot to speak about, is the one that reject me after the AC. It was also one of the few (non US) firms that didn't use a video interview or the SJT, and I'm notoriously bad at those.
I am also worried that if I fall back on my second year grades, it will make it even more challenging for me to acquire one.
Besides these concerns, I have a few specific questions:
Would u please tell me whether I can apply next year to the same firm, which is Freshfields,given I was rejected at AC stage, and if I do, will I be given any sort of exception to the Watson Glaser test?
I also want to ask whether I can continue using my same personal statement given it allowed me to pass the application stage, and if not, how must I show changes? can I still retain some parts of it?
Am I allowed to apply to the winter vacation scheme? every firm I applied to was for the 2025 summer vacation scheme, and I want to know whether the 2025 winter vacation scheme counts as something in the next cycle? I'm particularly worried because some firms only allow second year students for summer vac schemes.
What can I do to improve my applications next year, and show progress?
Would it be recommended for me to apply to direct TCs next year, or should I stick to vac schemes?
Are there any alternative options I should keep open right now, in the event that I dont manage to secure a 2028 one? I'm thinking along the lines of masters or other legal jobs, like teaching, but I'm not sure how feasible this is? is there anything else I could be looking at?
and just one more thing, would it be silly to maybe respond to the rejection email requesting to be reconsidered for this cycle in case of any drop outs or changes?
I know this is a lot of questions, and I apologise again. As an international student who is under a sort of time pressure , ive been feeling really anxious and like I blew my only chance. Any advice would be appreciated, and I hope this is useful for anyone else in a similar situation!!
I apologize in advance for the long message. I just feel very lost and disheartened at the moment.
I just got rejected following my only AC, and I really dont know what to do anymore. It was my only AC and I'm unsure at all how to move forward , especially as I'm an international student, meaning I wont be able to stay in the UK after I graduate next year, if I dont have anything secured, also due to cost issues.
Would you please be able to give me some advice moving forward? I have a great deal of anxiety that I might not even get to an AC next year, and that this year's was only because 1. I had a mentoring scheme relating to the firm and 2. I had mitigating circumstances for my poor first year grades.
I do not have any open days/ mentoring schemes relating to any other firms, so I'm worried that just like this year, I wont get any ACs for those firms next year either, and the only firm for which I had a lot to speak about, is the one that reject me after the AC. It was also one of the few (non US) firms that didn't use a video interview or the SJT, and I'm notoriously bad at those.
I am also worried that if I fall back on my second year grades, it will make it even more challenging for me to acquire one.
Besides these concerns, I have a few specific questions:
Would u please tell me whether I can apply next year to the same firm, which is Freshfields,given I was rejected at AC stage, and if I do, will I be given any sort of exception to the Watson Glaser test?
I also want to ask whether I can continue using my same personal statement given it allowed me to pass the application stage, and if not, how must I show changes? can I still retain some parts of it?
Am I allowed to apply to the winter vacation scheme? every firm I applied to was for the 2025 summer vacation scheme, and I want to know whether the 2025 winter vacation scheme counts as something in the next cycle? I'm particularly worried because some firms only allow second year students for summer vac schemes.
What can I do to improve my applications next year, and show progress?
Would it be recommended for me to apply to direct TCs next year, or should I stick to vac schemes?
Are there any alternative options I should keep open right now, in the event that I dont manage to secure a 2028 one? I'm thinking along the lines of masters or other legal jobs, like teaching, but I'm not sure how feasible this is? is there anything else I could be looking at?
and just one more thing, would it be silly to maybe respond to the rejection email requesting to be reconsidered for this cycle in case of any drop outs or changes?
I know this is a lot of questions, and I apologise again. As an international student who is under a sort of time pressure , ive been feeling really anxious and like I blew my only chance. Any advice would be appreciated, and I hope this is useful for anyone else in a similar situation!!
HSF ac! Please can anyone who have been to one or have any tips to give please Pm me! I would really really appreciate it! Thank you )
)The thing is they said Wed 28th Feb 😭 so is it acc Wed or Friday…Yes I think you are right, they said they will get back to all of us by 28th feb
Inspired by the great Tintin to give an update! Basically, I posted the list below (the post I replied to) on Monday; since then, I have received a PFO from TLT, NRF (post-vi), BCLP (post-vi), and Morgan Lewis (post-ti)... Therefore, 65 applications, 48 rejections, 1 offer, and 16 pending (8 realistically speaking):
Firms I am assuming PFOs for because people have progressed [some even received offers]: Morrison Foerster, Shoosmiths, DACB [horrible percentile in critical thinking feedback], RPC [73% though on WG], Latham & Watkins [still alive?], Linklaters [low percentile in WG], Orrick [didn't receive the WG], Paynes Hicks Beach [honestly don't even remember why I applied to this to begin with 😂]
Basically, the only firms pending thus far with a realistic potential are the following:
1.Greenberg Traurig (TC)
2. Howes Spercival
3. Withers (TC)
4. Simmons and Simmons
5. Ropes & Gray
6. UN Legal Affairs Intern
7. Katten
8. King & Spalding
Firms I am assuming PFOs for because people have progressed [some even received offers]: Morrison Foerster, Shoosmiths, DACB [horrible percentile in critical thinking feedback], RPC [73% though on WG], Latham & Watkins [still alive?], Linklaters [low percentile in WG], Orrick [didn't receive the WG], Paynes Hicks Beach [honestly don't even remember why I applied to this to begin with 😂]
Basically, the only firms pending thus far with a realistic potential are the following:
1.Greenberg Traurig (TC)
2. Howes Spercival
3. Withers (TC)
4. Simmons and Simmons
5. Ropes & Gray
6. UN Legal Affairs Intern
7. Katten
8. King & Spalding
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