TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2024-25

VMS

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Hi guys, I got told I need to complete 2 tests for Mayer Brown, is this automatic and sent to everyone that applies or after screening?

I'm pretty sure it's automatic, I just completed mine. Before you do, I really recommend doing the practice test they have in their email - it's quick and gives a good insight into the test (which isn't one I've encountered before).
 

bangarangbass39

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Didn’t say they were easier degrees or not useful. My point was regarding the over-saturation of these degrees within my law society. They take the opportunities for themselves. Then coast the rest of their degree with a wealth of experience as I rough it in law struggling to differentiate myself from every other law student.
Hmm, I'm interested in what you think could be offered instead.

I understand your frustration is perhaps centred on the contradiction of the dynamic (non-law students are syphoning the law opportunities at uni) but it does come off like you feel they don't deserve it. Or, it's with your view that they are making it difficult for Law students who paying to make it in the profession. Who is arguably demonstrating a stronger passion? Perhaps you could clarify what the contention is?

With this in mind, proposing a system where law societies are dominated by law students or divided into non-law and law strata seems confusing.
 

IneedaTCASAP

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Hmm, I'm interested in what you think could be offered instead.

I understand your frustration is perhaps centred on the contradiction of the dynamic (non-law students are syphoning the law opportunities at uni) but it does come off like you feel they don't deserve it. Or, it's with your view that they are making it difficult for Law students who paying to make it in the profession. Who is arguably demonstrating a stronger passion? Perhaps you could clarify what the contention is?

With this in mind, proposing a system where law societies are dominated by law students or divided into non-law and law strata seems confusing.
My last message on this as it seems to have rattled the feathers of non law students.

My original post was regarding an open day my university law society are hosting with a firm. I stated it is corrupt. Myself and other students at my university have said this. 80% of the law society is ran by non law students with the exec positions all being non law. We have several legal societies including a non-law society. I’m happy for any degree to join and it does not bother be who is in charge what bothers me is the cliques and how corrupt MY law society is. And apparently Warwick law society is As well.

I have applied to many things my law society has ran alongside US and city firms. We have had approximately 7 dinners. None of my friends have been accepted, majority of the students accepted are non law mostly studying history, English or PPE. I did not say those degrees were useless nor were they easier. Another member of the forum assumed that.

It is annoying to study a degree centred on the career you aim to go into and not be given the opportunity to get any exposure because those who run the society (non law students) do not give them to us (law students). It ultimately leads to those at MY university in MY law society having a wealth of experience/exposure to multiple firms when applying to vacation schemes. Coasting their degrees because they’re already secure in the opportunities they have and can apply to firms with ample information. Applying to law firms alongside studying is hard. It would be nice to lessen the stress if I were to be given the opportunity to meet firms in the vicinity of MY university and not have to travel miles away for an 4 hour open-day. However, I am grateful to have been given the opportunity to do so.

My first post was regarding MY university and MY law society and it being corrupt. I’m confused as to how you all missed that post and jumped down my throat stating I’m on a high horse, I have a superiority complex and I’m not doing well because I’ve been rejected from 3 open days last time I checked you’re all on TCLA without training contracts like me. Everyone deserves the opportunities they APPLY TO without bias regardless of degree.

Good riddance and good night.
 

LawyerUpPal

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Hmm, I'm interested in what you think could be offered instead.

I understand your frustration is perhaps centred on the contradiction of the dynamic (non-law students are syphoning the law opportunities at uni) but it does come off like you feel they don't deserve it. Or, it's with your view that they are making it difficult for Law students who paying to make it in the profession. Who is arguably demonstrating a stronger passion? Perhaps you could clarify what the contention is?

With this in mind, proposing a system where law societies are dominated by law students or divided into non-law and law strata seems confusing.
Guys, no one here who actually wants a VC, and TC cares about this drama. If you disagree with what IneedaTCASAP said, that's fine; he is entitled to his opinion, and it's just that- one person's opinion. I just don't see the need to go back and forth about this non-issue when it is not the focus or purpose of this forum. There are people here really trying to get answers and assistance so they can progress their careers, and you guys are starting drama over nothing. Please, no more posts about this. If you're affected by what he said, talk to your therapist or cry into a pillow- I think I speak for the majority of people on here in saying- no one cares.
 

F a v o u r

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    Just wanted to jump in here to clarify that my experience with Warwick Law Society has actually been really positive. In my opinion, the society is well-run and has a good mix of law and non-law students on the exec committee, which I think helps bring a fresh perspective.

    To clarify what I meant by ‘I relate’—I was more referring to the general feeling that certain opportunities can sometimes feel like they’re directed toward people who are already in the ‘inner circles’ of a society.

    While I understand the frustration when it seems like things aren’t accessible to everyone, I haven’t personally seen evidence of corruption, favouritism or bias with Warwick lawsoc.
     
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    sammm10101

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    I did not say those degrees were useless nor were they easier. Another member of the forum assumed that.
    I'm sorry that we got our wires crossed, and I didn't mean to initiate a barrage of comments against you. However, I hope you can see where I was coming from, and that the initial 'coasting' message, and particularly the subsequent 'if the shoes fit' message really did send the impression that you think that humanities degrees are something you can just push through without doing any work. It just really bothered me as its a fairly common thing you hear from people, that history is easy, and its something I have heard repeatedly from other aspiring solicitors, at open days and at events at my university.

    There are people here really trying to get answers and assistance so they can progress their careers, and you guys are starting drama over nothing. Please, no more posts about this. If you're affected by what he said, talk to your therapist or cry into a pillow- I think I speak for the majority of people on here in saying- no one cares
    And sorry, but I have the absolute right to respond to someone who (mistakenly) implied first that I was just 'coasting' through a degree without putting in any effort, and then personalised it by saying 'if the shoe fits'. Obviously its not the point of the forum, but I thought I should let the other person know just how elitist and insulting it came across. If someone directly insulted you or your work ethic, I would not be surprised in the slightest if you responded, nor would I belittle the response and essentially imply that its meaningless. I would back it completely!

    Anyway, all good, and no hard feelings :)
     

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