Which firms recruit predominantly from VS and which ones from TC?

[cryingoverTCs]

I was hoping to start a thread on which firms recruit from their VS or TC, as I am trying to figure out if it is worth it for me to apply to some direct TCs

If there is already a comprehensive thread detailing this then please let me know! And also if any of the info is incorrect, then also please let me know!

Firms that recruit solely from VS:
Akin Gump (but sometimes look at direct TC apps)
Clyde & Co
CMS
Davis Polk & Wardwell
Dechert
Gateley
Gowling WLG
Herbert Smith Freehills
Jones Day
Kirkland and Ellis (but sometimes look at direct TC apps)
Milbank
Mischon de Reya
Ropes & Gray
Shearman & Sterling
Taylor Wessing
Vinson & Elkins (but sometimes look at direct TC apps)

Predominantly from VS:
Addleshaw Goddard
Baker Mckenzie
Bird and Bird
Debevoise & Plimpton
Dentons
Eversheds Sutherland
Gibson Dunn & Crutcher
HFW
Linklaters
Mayer Brown
Memery Crystal
Mills & Reeve
Pinsent Masons
Simmons & Simmons
Skadden
Squire Patton Boggs

Significant recruitment not from VS:
Allen & Overy
Bristows (do not have a VS)
Clifford Chance
Freshfields
Fried Frank (do not have a VS)
Lewis Silkin (do not have a VS)
Macfarlanes (50:50)
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fullbright
Paul Hastings (do not have a VS)
Shoosmiths
Slaughter and May

 

[Jessica Booker]

My approach to work this out would be as follows

Work out how many vac scheme places there are

Take 80% of that figure

Take 80% of that figure again

Calculates roughly how many TC places are taken by vac schemers (rough estimate).

Take that figure and put in in as a ratio compared to total training contract vacancies - eg:

(vac scheme vacancies x 80%) x 80% : training contract vacancies

If that figure is anything from 3:4 or lower you still have a good chance of a direct TC in my opinion.

 

[D]

I think there is a real blurring of the lines between solely/predominantly. For example, firms like Kirkland will accept Direct TC applications but only look at them if they fail to fill their TC's from their VS candidates.

 

[Jaysen]

Good thread idea!

This is quite outdated, but I thought I'd share previous threads on this in case it's still useful:

https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....-do-not-recruit-heavily-from-vac-schemes.737/
https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....rom-vac-schemes-applying-directly-to-tc.1164/

 

[cryingoverTCs]

My approach to work this out would be as follows

Work out how many vac scheme places there are

Take 80% of that figure

Take 80% of that figure again

Calculates roughly how many TC places are taken by vac schemers (rough estimate).

Take that figure and put in in as a ratio compared to total training contract vacancies - eg:

(vac scheme vacancies x 80%) x 80% : training contract vacancies

If that figure is anything from 3:4 or lower you still have a good chance of a direct TC in my opinion.

Ahh ok - this is quite helpful! Thanks, Jessica!

I still thought that it might perhaps be helpful to have somewhat of an updated list

 

[cryingoverTCs]

I think there is a real blurring of the lines between solely/predominantly. For example, firms like Kirkland will accept Direct TC applications but only look at them if they fail to fill their TC's from their VS candidates.

Ahh I see - I'll put Kirkland down in solely but say that sometimes they look at the direct TC apps

 

[D]

Ahh I see - I'll put Kirkland down in solely but say that sometimes they look at the direct TC apps

This is likely the same for most US firms who have a smaller intake - Akin, V&E, Skadden, DP, etc...

 

[Holly]

I was hoping to start a thread on which firms recruit from their VS or TC, as I am trying to figure out if it is worth it for me to apply to some direct TCs

If there is already a comprehensive thread detailing this then please let me know! And also if any of the info is incorrect, then also please let me know!

Firms that recruit solely from VS:
Clyde & Co
Davis Polk & Wardwell
Dechert
Gateley
Gowling WLG
Herbert Smith Freehills
Jones Day
Mischon de Reya
Ropes & Gray
Shearman & Sterling
Taylor Wessing

Predominantly from VS:
Debevoise & Plimpton
Dentons
Gibson Dunn & Crutcher
Mayer Brown
Simmons & Simmons
Skadden

Significant recruitment from VS:
Clifford Chance
Freshfields
Fried Frank (do not have a VS)
Macfarlanes (50:50)
Paul Hastings (do not have a VS)
Shoosmiths
Slaughter and May

I believe CMS also only reruit from their academy (VS)

 

[Natalie Black]

Vinson and Elkins almost 100% recruit through VS, so do Milbank

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

Linklaters generally offers 80-85% of its TCs to vac schemers.

As has been extensively discussed on this forum for the last fortnight or so, Clifford Chance accepts direct TC apps, but heavily prioritize penultimate year law students and non-law finalists. They've scrapped vac schemes for next year.

 

[cryingoverTCs]

This is likely the same for most US firms who have a smaller intake - Akin, V&E, Skadden, DP, etc...

I believe CMS also only reruit from their academy (VS)

Vinson and Elkins almost 100% recruit through VS, so do Milbank

Linklaters generally offers 80-85% of its TCs to vac schemers.

As has been extensively discussed on this forum for the last fortnight or so, Clifford Chance accepts direct TC apps, but heavily prioritize penultimate year law students and non-law finalists. They've scrapped vac schemes for next year.

Thanks so much everyone! I've added it all in - but please let me know if I missed anything!

 

[Asmee DC]

Eversheds Sutherland, Mills & Reeve, and Pinsent Masons recruit predominantly from VS!

 

[M&ALawyer]

Just to add from my notes of firms that recruit from VS/TC.

Predominantly from VS, and solely from VS
Memery Crystal
HFW
Dechert
Squire Patton Boggs
Bird and Bird
Baker McKenzie

For TC (that I have down as worth applying to)
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fullbright
Allen & Overy
Freshfields

This is just from my research though and is by no means absolute/completely correct!

 

[Alaw96]

Just to add from my notes of firms that recruit from VS/TC.

Predominantly from VS (but not solely)
Memery Crystal
HFW
Dechert
Squire Patton Boggs
Bird and Bird
CMS
Baker McKenzie

For TC (that I have down as worth applying to)
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fullbright
Allen & Overy
Freshfields

This is just from my research though and is by no means absolute/completely correct!

CMS recruit solely from the Academy (Vac scheme).

 

[M&ALawyer]

CMS recruit solely from the Academy (Vac scheme).

Corrected - thanks!

 

[Adam Gilchrist]

You should probably make a note that Clifford Chance no longer have a vac scheme.

Just to add from my notes of firms that recruit from VS/TC.

Predominantly from VS (but not solely)
Memery Crystal
HFW
Dechert
Squire Patton Boggs
Bird and Bird
Baker McKenzie

For TC (that I have down as worth applying to)
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fullbright
Allen & Overy
Freshfields

This is just from my research though and is by no means absolute/completely correct!

Fairly sure A&O is another one that predominantly recruits from VS, a bit like Links & other MC firms

 

[M&ALawyer]

You should probably make a note that Clifford Chance no longer have a vac scheme. They only have


Fairly sure A&O is another one that predominantly recruits from VS, a bit like Links & other MC firms

According to chambers they have 50 vac scheme places and around 85 training contracts. Using a rough measure that means 40-50% of spaces are for TC applicants (if this information is correct of course!).

 

[Daniel Boden]

According to chambers they have 50 vac scheme places and around 85 training contracts. Using a rough measure that means 40-50% of spaces are for TC applicants (if this information is correct of course!).

Yeah that was true for this year but CC have decided to no longer run a vac scheme and recruit mainly through the spark scheme or direct TCs. They only decided this fairly recently after their virtual vacation schemes

 

[M&ALawyer]

Yeah that was true for this year but CC have decided to no longer run a vac scheme and recruit mainly through the spark scheme or direct TCs. They only decided this fairly recently after their virtual vacation schemes

Sorry, my previous reply wasn’t clear - my reference was to Allen and Overy.

 

[tractor12]

Just to add from my notes of firms that recruit from VS/TC.

Predominantly from VS (but not solely)
Memery Crystal
HFW
Dechert
Squire Patton Boggs
Bird and Bird
Baker McKenzie

For TC (that I have down as worth applying to)
Morgan Lewis
Norton Rose Fullbright
Allen & Overy
Freshfields

This is just from my research though and is by no means absolute/completely correct!

I'm 90% SPB recruit only from VS