TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2023-24

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emee

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I second this, I got a job in a tiny high street firm as a legal assistant and then used this to get my role as a paralegal in much better prestigious firm where I work in commercial litigation.
I would suggest even looking at PA role inside law firms as they pay a lot more than paralegal roles and the working hours tend to be better.
Completely agree - I personally have realised if you’re capable of legal assistant role, you’re capable of PA role. Pay is way better and you get to work with more senior people.
 

laby201

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Any guidance on what to make of the Bakers SJT feedback report? What would be considered a good outcome?
Seen a bit of a discussion about SJTs and the reports today and having done Baker’s yesterday and plenty of others this cycle, I’ve learned not to read into them too much as we’ve no idea how they’re really assessed.

I’m sure you have to hit a certain benchmark, but some firms will view them holistically alongside your application, others may want one of the pillars to be particularly strong and overlook others; we just don’t know. In any event, I never really pay too much attention to the reports as they always seem to contradict each other, despite being based on the same qualities. Reed Smith thought my grit was a 7/9 and Baker’s thought it was a 3/9.

I think none of us really know how they’re assessed, so I just answer honestly and try not to overthink it. If they don’t like you off that, then oh well.
 
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laby201

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Thank you everyone for your advice - it is really appreciated! Wishing you all the best luck :)
Thought I would chip in as honestly the months post-graduation where I couldn’t get a legal position when all my friends were getting them was really challenging. The hardest part is most places seemed to be completely unresponsive, which sucks when you put a good amount of effort into a CV/cover letter.

I’ll caveat all this by saying I don’t think having a non-legal position after graduation is an issue. Firms know how difficult it is to secure legal work experience given how saturated the current market is and emphasise the skills you can pick up in other fields. So, even if you end up in hospitality, consultancy, recruitment, banking, whatever it may be, you’ll still develop valuable skills that will boost your applications!

However, if you are looking for legal jobs specifically, the only advice I can really give you is not be particularly fussy and apply for everything you see that you feel you’d be qualified for. Whether that’s a paralegal, legal admin, legal secretary, anything is a good starting place and feel it’s all about getting your foot in the door. LinkedIn/Indeed are always a smart bet on where to begin your search; I know a few others on here have recommended FlexLegal and that another route!

I wouldn’t be too fussed about the area of law either - I’m currently in insurance law, which certainly isn’t my main field of interest, but it’s still been useful experience that I’ve learned much from and can speak about on applications.

All in all, I’d just say stay persistent and grab any opportunities you can. Best of luck! :)
 
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lawtrainee

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Thought I would chip in as honestly the months post-graduation where I couldn’t get a legal position when all my friends were getting them was really challenging. The hardest part is most seemed to be completely unresponsive, which sucks when you put a good amount of effort into a CV/cover letter.

I’ll caveat all this by saying I don’t think having a non-legal position after graduation is an issue. Firms know how difficult it is to secure legal work experience given how saturated the current market is and emphasis the skills you can pick up in other fields. So, even if you end up in hospitality, consultancy, recruitment, banking, whatever it may be, you’ll still develop valuable skills that will boost your applications!

However, if you are looking for legal jobs specifically, the only advice I can really give you is not be particularly fussy and apply for everything you see that you feel you’d be qualified for. Whether that’s a paralegal, legal admin, legal secretary, anything is a good starting place and feel it’s all about getting your foot in the door. LinkedIn/Indeed are always a smart bet on where to begin your search; I know a few others on here have recommended FlexLegal and that another route!

I wouldn’t be too fussed about the area of law either - I’m currently in insurance law, which certainly isn’t my main field of interest, but it’s still been useful experience that I’ve learned much from and can speak about on applications.

All in all, I’d just say stay persistent and grab any opportunities you can. Best of luck! :)
This is really helpful - thank you so much :)
 

MrHubertLouis

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Seen a bit of a discussion about SJTs and the reports today and having done Baker’s yesterday and plenty of others this cycle, I’ve learned not to read into them too much as we’ve no idea how they’re really assessed.

I’m sure you have to hit a certain benchmark, but some firms will view them holistically alongside your application, others may want one of the pillars to be particularly strong and overlook others; we just don’t know. In any event, I never really pay too much attention to the reports as they always seem to contradict each other, despite being based on the same qualities. Reed Smith thought my grit was a 7/9 and Baker’s thought it was a 3/9.

I think none of us really know how they’re assessed, so I just answer honestly and try not to overthink it. If they don’t like you off that, then oh well.
Same here, I did two SJTs with the same pillars and my results were completely opposite.
 

Petallove1

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Thanks for the replies! As a non-law student, I am struggling to apply to paralegal jobs given I have limited experience in commercial law. It is hard as law firms want legal experience, but to get this experience I need to already have had previous legal work. Apologies if this doesn't make sense and all advice welcomed!
In my experience to get a foot in the door is email your CV and create a short but sweet ‘cover letter’ style email about why you like the firm and why you think you’d be a fit. Best to target smaller firms. If one of them likes you, chances are they might have something for you. Only takes one :) and if it’s a small firm can build from there. Ik it sounds annoying when everyone on here are applying to VSs and TCs at huge firms, but this has been a successful method for literally all my friends who I did the law conversion with and can then move to a bigger firm w paralegal experience or can use it as legal experience for TCs. Hope that’s useful :)
 
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