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An issue affecting the legal sector and firm. I've opted for legal technology.

then the following:

- commercial awareness
- awareness of the audience
- structure and conciseness
- oral communication (written/visual communication if you are also expected to produce slides or some form of document to support your presentation

Legal technology is a massive subject - you may want to choose a type of legal technology and focus your presentation on that to do it justice.
 

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Clifford Chance does not have A-level requirements. I just emailed them the day before and this is what they said.
"We do not have A Level requirements for any applicant. We review all applications in candidates entirety and make decisions based on everything candidates refer to." @mov @Jessica Booker

I don’t keep up to date with individual firm’s processes, so just commenting more generally in response to the post.
 
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Hi Jessica,

I applied to FF for a direct TC at the very start when the TC window opened. I've edited my application (the work section and PS) a couple times since due to new developments which I found very relevant to my app - I made the changes a month after my first app but still within the deadline.

I was wondering if graduate recruitment would be able to see the exact changes I've made and if editing the application would affect my app in any way. Would it be better to withdraw the app and reapply as the deadline isn't for another 10 days?

Thanks!
 
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Hi Jessica,

I applied to FF for a direct TC at the very start when the TC window opened. I've edited my application (the work section and PS) a couple times since due to new developments which I found very relevant to my app - I made the changes a month after my first app but still within the deadline.

I was wondering if graduate recruitment would be able to see the exact changes I've made and if editing the application would affect my app in any way. Would it be better to withdraw the app and reapply as the deadline isn't for another 10 days?

Thanks!

yes - they will be able to see the edits at the time of reviewing if they were there.

Don’t withdraw/reapply
 

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Hi jess, was wondering what you think of this: I'm making a few last minute direct TC applications this cycle before the july deadlines but I feel like I'm unlikely to get anything as most of the firms I'm applying to hire mostly from VS - would I be able to reuse those applications for the winter VS or would I have to write completely new ones? I'm wondering if im wasting my time and also if grad rec will see that there were no trainee positions left this cycle and disregard a previous application when looking for winter VS? Thank you so much for your help!
 
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Hi jess, was wondering what you think of this: I'm making a few last minute direct TC applications this cycle before the july deadlines but I feel like I'm unlikely to get anything as most of the firms I'm applying to hire mostly from VS - would I be able to reuse those applications for the winter VS or would I have to write completely new ones? I'm wondering if im wasting my time and also if grad rec will see that there were no trainee positions left this cycle and disregard a previous application when looking for winter VS? Thank you so much for your help!

Any second application will need updating/refining.

I think you need to look at each firm individually and weigh up the following considerations:
  • Whether you are eligible for the winter scheme
  • Whether you can reapply within a 12 month period
  • Previous VS to TC Conversion rates (there are some stats out there)
  • Whether you think you can develop your application between July and November, if the first one is unsuccessful
 
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Any second application will need updating/refining.

I think you need to look at each firm individually and weigh up the following considerations:
  • Whether you are eligible for the winter scheme
  • Whether you can reapply within a 12 month period
  • Previous VS to TC Conversion rates (there are some stats out there)
  • Whether you think you can develop your application between July and November, if the first one is unsuccessful
This is super helpful thank you!
 

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Super long post.... sorry for the delay in getting this to everyone:

Virtual Internships – how to ensure success (part 1)

With many vacation schemes and internships now being delivered online/virtually this summer, I thought it would be useful to download my thoughts on some advice on how to ensure you have a successful one.

To start with, there are several different ways in which “internships” are being managed and delivered. These include:

1. Online seminars/webinars: much more like e-learning rather than an internship (e.g. you don’t have any responsibilities to deliver any actual work, you are just expected to turn up, listen in and make notes).

2. Simulations: these are sometimes delivered via virtual platforms like Sherpa. You have responsibilities to deliver work, whether individually or in groups, but the work is a simulation of the type of work you would do. Everyone who is taking the internship is also delivering the same project as you.

3. Internship: you are delivering real-life work for a business. You are working with people to deliver real-time projects/services, it is just on a “work-from-home (WFH)” basis or being conducted remotely due to Covid-19.

Many internships are also hybrids of the above, with a mixture of different activities and responsibilities over the period of the internship. Some of the advice below will only apply to the “internship” category, but hopefully there will also be some useful pointers for any type of internship.


Things to consider:

Set up:

Make sure you have somewhere productive to work from. Ideally you should work from a desk/table with a chair with good support for your back. Try to give yourself as much desk/table space to work from as possible. Try to ensure you have adequate lighting/sunlight too. Think about the background behind you for video calls – it doesn’t really matter what it is, just make sure it is tidy (no one wants to see a sink full of dishes or your cat’s litter tray).

Technology:

If you are not using your phone as a form of communication with your employer (e.g. you aren’t expecting people to contact you via your mobile phone or via apps on your phone), think about turning off notifications or using the “do not disturb” function to limit your distractions. The same goes with your laptop. Try not to have various other tabs/website pages running in the background. Your social media/WhatsApp messages can wait until you have a break.

Technology is never 100% reliable. Even if it were, a cut in the electricity supply would likely stop many people’s Wi-Fi. Don’t panic if your technology fails on you. If it is a simple case of rebooting your computer and logging back in, that will be fine. If for any reason your technology is failing over a longer period, notify your supervisor/HR via your phone. Everyone has experienced these failings at some point, especially over the last 4 months, so don’t get concerned about them. These things happen from time to time!

Organisation:

Organisation will be very important. Make sure you are using all the necessary tools to keep your calendar and to-do-list up to date. This is somewhat easier if you have been given a company email account by your employer with software like Outlook, but if you haven’t got this, think about how you will record and plan your time each day of the week. You want to make sure you don’t miss any meetings/seminars/deadlines.

When working remotely think about how you want to ensure you record things. In the workplace, you’d probably always carry a notebook with you to write down information. Think about how you will replicate this at home. You are fortunate that this could be done in many more ways than in an office, so don’t be afraid to be creative with this. You may find it difficult to do this on your laptop, as your screen might be occupied by video calls/seminars or working from documents. You therefore may want to consider a secondary device or a notebook to help record things separately.

Learning & Development:

If your employer doesn’t give you one, I would recommend running a learning log throughout your internship, no matter what format the internship taking. The learning log can take a very basic format of a Word document or Excel spreadsheet with something like the following columns.
  • Date/Time
  • Activity
  • Hours taken
  • Reflections
  • Feedback
  • Further actions
The reflections should be about how you feel the work went. What you found easy/difficult, what was surprising to you, what you learnt etc. The feedback should be the feedback you receive you’re your colleagues on how you did. Further actions should include any further work that was needed to finalise the work or if there are any development/training opportunities you could seek to improve your ability to do similar work in the future.

You could also use this learning log to record any questions you want answered at a later stage of the internship.

This learning log could really help you reflect on your time on the internship and also your own personal development. It could be a great document to use in the future should you have interviews that ask you about your previous experiences.

Looking after yourself:

Make sure you look after yourself during the period of the internship. Try to get enough sleep, eat well, and stay hydrated. Ensure you take breaks from your computer, even if just to stretch your legs/make yourself a drink. Take a lunch break at the appropriate time. Don’t feel that you need to be by your computer screen at every moment of the day/week – remote working is great that it provides much more flexibility of how and when you work, but many take that they then need to be “on-call” all the time. That shouldn’t be the case. You will be far more efficient and focused if you take care of yourself and ensure you create the balance between work and life outside of it.

Communication is key:

Many people don’t like certain forms of communication. Some fear calling people and speaking to them on the phone and will avoid it. Some hate video calls and so will do anything they can do put them off. This can often mean an over-reliance on emails. Emails can be an effective method of communication, but at the same time they can be the worst form. If an email takes you 30 minutes to draft, takes 10 minutes for the recipient to read and then another 20 minutes for them to respond to, it might be likely that a phone call/video chat is far more productive for both parties. The same goes for difficult conversations. These would usually be done in person in an office, but without that luxury, it is likely that this will be better done by a video call rather than an IM or text message.

It will also be important to remember that everyone has a unique situation at home, and some of your colleagues may require flexibility in the way you communicate and when. It is important to get clarity on when people will be available and when they won’t. This allows everyone who is working together to create better expectations of how and when you will get a response. Under current circumstances, this is more important than ever as many people are juggling home schooling and other home commitments. This means the 9-5 job has become much more like “7-8 hours between 6.00am to 10.00pm”. You may find your Supervisor is up early doing work before some home-schooling, while your Trainee/Grad Buddy is working later in the day and into the evening as their housemate is also working from home and there isn’t enough space for them to work at the same time. They are allowed that flexibility, but so are you – you aren’t expected to be working at 7.00am just because your supervisor is, nor expected to work through to 10pm just because your Trainee Buddy is. Ensure there is two-way communication so that work patterns work for everyone.

Because of the above, don’t always expect an immediate response to a query you have, especially if something is not urgent. You will need to factor this into your plans for delivering work. Because of this, work may take longer than expected. Given that, it will be important to ask questions upfront when the work is given to you. These questions could include any of the following:

  • What is the deadline?
  • How long would you expect this to take?
  • How long should this document be?
  • Is there a template/structure I should work from?
  • What’s the most important objective(s) with this work?
  • Are there any sources of research you would recommend?
  • What should I prioritise?
  • When can we catch up about this again?
  • Who else would you recommend I speak to?

Don’t be afraid to ask these questions to a supervisor – they will generally see it as positive as they want you to deliver the work well rather than going off on a tangent or missing the point. If you ever need further clarity (or you can’t get hold of your supervisor) try to get the views of other interns or current graduates/trainees.
 
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Part 2

What else can I do:


Although many interns may find themselves fully occupied throughout the period of their internship, it wouldn’t be surprising if many also find that they have spare time during the day or are waiting for work to come in/sessions to start.

In those periods, it is important for an intern to be proactive and think about how they can occupy their time. It is not the employer’s or supervisor’s responsibility to keep you occupied every minute of the internship, and it is very much your own responsibility to ensure you make the most of the opportunity.

Even with face-to-face internships, interns could often experience times of not doing much. This is likely to be exacerbated by remote working and people not being able to physically see you are not doing much.

If you have spare time, think about the following:

Ask for more work:
if you have capacity, ask for more work. If your supervisor can’t give you more, think about speaking to other interns or current grads/trainees to see if you can support them. Ensure you run past things with your supervisor though, as they may not have any work now but may have work to give you later that could conflict. Those who you are working with may have a list of “would be nice to get to this if I had time” activities/responsibilities on the bottom of their to-do list. This might be writing an article for business development purposes, it might be researching a potential new client/service, it might be some competitor analysis. These are the type of activities that are non-urgent but could be ideal for an intern and give you some interesting work to do at the same time.

Push you own self-development or learning: spend time completing your learning log, read up on subject matters you didn’t quite understand, find some e-learning that might help you get more confident with the technology/software you are using, read up more on a client you are working for. Whatever it is, think about how you could utilise your time and show you have proactively sought out/completed learning opportunities.

Network: try to utilise your time to speak to other employees. Organise virtual coffee meetings, ask people about their experiences. It will be important for you to gain a perspective about the firm/employer and its culture to help you make the decision as to whether it is somewhere you want to spend your future career.

Help others: apart from supporting others with their the day-to-day work, other ways in which you could support the employer more generally include things like writing an internship experience blog, asking the graduate recruitment team if they need any photos/content for their social media.

Other bits of advice:
  • If you are doing real work, remember that your work could be confidential. Be mindful about the conversations you are having, particularly if you are working in an environment with other people (even family!). Also, if you are printing documents or saving them to devices that are not company property, think about whether this is 1) appropriate and 2) how you may dispose of them afterwards. If you are unsure about this, speak to your supervisor or HR contacts to find out the best way to manage these processes so you ensure confidentiality and data protection are maintained.
  • Most interns fear asking questions because they think it will make them look stupid. 9 times out of 10, that won’t be the case and not asking the question might be a greater risk. Questions generally help you deliver work to a higher standard, meet expectations better and show your interest in the subject matter more. Just ask yourself whether you are asking the right person the question (e.g. HR can’t help you with IT issues, your supervisor can’t help with HR issues).
  • If you realise you are not going to meet a deadline, the earlier you flag this the better. Try to seek solutions first (e.g. can you get support on the piece of work from other interns/grads, or could you push back other deadlines) but if it is clear you will miss a deadline, it will be much better if you tell someone sooner rather than later.
  • Do all your work well. Triple-check and re-read everything before you send it out (including emails). If necessary, print it out and go over it in hard copy line by line - it's usually easier to spot typos this way.
  • Don't knock any work that's given to you, even if it isn't very intellectual (proofreading, due diligence, research, filing). Take everything with a smile, and make sure you do your best, even if you don't find the work all that exciting.
  • Think about how you could replicate or replace the social aspect of the internship. Sometimes employers put on social events for their interns, sometimes groups of interns will socialise outside of work anyway or go to lunch together. Don’t be afraid to replicate that activity online to ensure you get a feel for the people you could be working with in the future if you were to join the firm as a graduate.
 
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Part 3:

Please feel free to tag me in posts on here or PM me if you have any particular questions about your internship and how best to deal with situations. I'll try to respond as quickly as possible!
 
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What I have learnt from using Zoom over the past 4 months:

Mute and unmute your mic quickly using the space bar
If you have to follow just one tip for Zoom then let it be this one. When there are too many participants in a meeting, it’s hard to hear everyone because of cross-talk and background noise. But you can reverse this behaviour by a simple hack. If you are in a Zoom meeting and not speaking then keep your mic on mute. And when you want to talk briefly, simply hold the space bar to enable the mic and speak. Once you release the space bar key, you’ll be muted again.

Screenshots
Sometimes when on seminars you want to take a screenshot of the slide that is being presented. You can do this by pressing Alt + Shift + T or Command + T

For the vain amongst us... (and yes I have done this...)
Zoom offers an option to beautify your look. It softens your skin tone and smooths out any blemish on your video display. Overall, it offers a more polished and pleasing appearance to your look while you are in a meeting. So to enable it, open Settings -> Video -> turn on “Touch up my appearance” and you are done.

Change your viewing settings
When you get started with Zoom for the first time, the app has its default video layout set to ‘Active Speaker’, which shows the person currently talking in the main window. However, if you want, you can switch to the Gallery View to see all the participants on the conference call at the same time. For this, click on Gallery View in the top-right of the screen.

Use the raise hand option
If you are in a meeting and the organiser is talking and you don't want to interrupt them, you can typically use the "raise hand" option to show you want to speak. Some Zoom meetings will also have a Q&A function too.

Virtual backgrounds:
You can use virtual backgrounds in Zoom but in a professional setting they can be slightly distracting, especially if they go fuzzy as you move about or if you disappear behind them. Only use them if absolutely necessary, and definitely don't use them to try and impress as this could be perceived as tacky.
 
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@Jessica Booker Hope you are fine.
i just got a reply from Taylor Wessing regarding my query of Tier-2 Visas.
This was their response : "Yes we do sponsor tier 2 visas for training contracts. To note however, we only recruit training contracts through our vacation schemes, and are unable to sponsor the relevant visas for the vacation scheme if a candidate is not already on a student visa in the UK during the summer scheme."
Is this a nice way for saying there is no point applying for a place there?
Thank you
 

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@Jessica Booker Hope you are fine.
i just got a reply from Taylor Wessing regarding my query of Tier-2 Visas.
This was their response : "Yes we do sponsor tier 2 visas for training contracts. To note however, we only recruit training contracts through our vacation schemes, and are unable to sponsor the relevant visas for the vacation scheme if a candidate is not already on a student visa in the UK during the summer scheme."
Is this a nice way for saying there is no point applying for a place there?
Thank you

They are saying you would need to do a vac scheme with them, but they couldn’t get you a visa for the vacation scheme - so yes, unfortunately it’s not worth your time applying.

It would be different if you were studying in the U.K.
 
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@Jessica Booker Could you please tell me the name of the Visa that I need to do a vac scheme at different firms. I need to include that in my emails that I'm sending out.
Also, if they can sponsor the Tier-2 visa for the international applicant but can't get the applicant to do a VS for them, who is availing the benefits of the Tier-2 visa?
 

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@Jessica Booker Could you please tell me the name of the Visa that I need to do a vac scheme at different firms. I need to include that in my emails that I'm sending out.
Also, if they can sponsor the Tier-2 visa for the international applicant but can't get the applicant to do a VS for them, who is availing the benefits of the Tier-2 visa?

It would most likely to be Tier 5 visa. Many firms won’t apply them for summer internships given the costs - they are expensive for what would only be 2-4 weeks with a firm.
 

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Hi Jessica. If I secure a TC in July/August/Sept 2021 but my Tier 4 expires in October 2021, will firms be able to sponsor me/exempt me from the labour market test? I assume I will start the LPC or SQE courses on a renewed Tier 4 visa and then make the switch to Tier 2?

Secondly, is it possible to apply to training contracts with provisional grades or should I just leave the the grades as blank? I have received all my results but they are not confirmed until the school board meet in late July or August, and the TC deadlines are fast approaching.

Also, thank you for the time and effort you have put into the virtual internship tips; they are incredibly helpful.
 

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Hi Jessica. If I secure a TC in July/August/Sept 2021 but my Tier 4 expires in October 2021, will firms be able to sponsor me/exempt me from the labour market test? I assume I will start the LPC or SQE courses on a renewed Tier 4 visa and then make the switch to Tier 2?

Secondly, is it possible to apply to training contracts with provisional grades or should I just leave the the grades as blank? I have received all my results but they are not confirmed until the school board meet in late July or August, and the TC deadlines are fast approaching.

Also, thank you for the time and effort you have put into the virtual internship tips; they are incredibly helpful.

I am not 100% sure of the process as the visa system changes at the start of 2021. Let me see if I can do some digging to get clarity on this.

can I double check your dates? Do you mean 2020 or 2021.

Edit: the RLMT will no longer exist in the new immigration system which starts in 2021. You just have to meet the 70 point minimum points criteria.

And yes, you can apply with either no grades or provisional grades. Just make clear when you will get your results.
 
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