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<blockquote data-quote="I’m_Batman" data-source="post: 167906" data-attributes="member: 30556"><p><strong>Initial thoughts: </strong>If you have made it to Vacation Schemes then it is really a matter of time. I don't think enough candidates own up or accept that often the deciding factor can be luck - one interviewer liked your answer more than if the same answer had been heard by someone else. If this is something you want to do long-term (and qualifying can be done at any age - I am a career changer and might qualify when I am 34... the average age of qualification jumped to 29 last I checked) then you should continue to pursue it and accept it will come in time.</p><p>This is a competitive legal field and US firm vacation schemes are the most elusive. As a first port of call have you applied to any law firm in the top 50? Realistically down the line, you will probably earn similar and move freely as long as you've trained somewhere like that (and law is quickly changing and becoming more accessible). I got a TC offer after 6 ACs and plenty of other stages between 2018-2024. It's understandable to feel dejected after putting in so much effort and not seeing the results you hope for. In the meantime if you don't achieve a TC, this how I would spend the meantime:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Any entry level Paralegal Position </strong>and <strong>With experience moving to a commercial law firm and applying internally. </strong>My TC offer is from the firm I work at now as a Paralegal. I am sure I was privy to plenty of information that other candidates found it much more elusive to come by.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Reflect on Feedback</strong>: It seems you've already been doing this, but continue to seek out and reflect deeply on any feedback you receive from interviews and applications. Sometimes, even small adjustments in how you present your experiences or answer questions can make a significant difference. For example, I used the STAR method but added how I had reflected on that experience so STARR lol - worked pretty well. I also worked on broad commercial topics like supply chains, general interest rate trends and consequences, King's Budget. Also, if the firm is, for example, an energy specialist knowing the general trends of the EV market etc. this sort of application.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Apply early in the cycle (if you have completed a solid app)</strong>. My applications were submitted in the first 2 weeks of opening. I applied to 7 firms this cycle and got two final stage ACs. Prepare in advance and be ready for the window. In the meantime, focus on other roles to help your career each cycle you apply you will be a stronger candidate.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Masters?</strong>: Consider engaging in further professional development opportunities. This could include attending workshops on interview skills, networking, or even specific legal skills that are in demand. Sometimes, showing that you're actively working on improving and acquiring new skills can be appealing to employers.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Oxbridge Network?</strong>: Leverage your network, including your university's alumni, especially those working in the legal sector. They can offer invaluable advice, insights into their firms' hiring practices, or even mentorship. Networking can sometimes open doors that traditional applications cannot. My first Paralegal role was through a contact at a small firm I never heard of. After that I moved to a big commercial one because I had more exp.</li> </ol><p><strong>Note: </strong>Your failure won't define but your response to it will. Obtaining a TC takes time and it will happen as you go through these cycles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I’m_Batman, post: 167906, member: 30556"] [B]Initial thoughts: [/B]If you have made it to Vacation Schemes then it is really a matter of time. I don't think enough candidates own up or accept that often the deciding factor can be luck - one interviewer liked your answer more than if the same answer had been heard by someone else. If this is something you want to do long-term (and qualifying can be done at any age - I am a career changer and might qualify when I am 34... the average age of qualification jumped to 29 last I checked) then you should continue to pursue it and accept it will come in time. This is a competitive legal field and US firm vacation schemes are the most elusive. As a first port of call have you applied to any law firm in the top 50? Realistically down the line, you will probably earn similar and move freely as long as you've trained somewhere like that (and law is quickly changing and becoming more accessible). I got a TC offer after 6 ACs and plenty of other stages between 2018-2024. It's understandable to feel dejected after putting in so much effort and not seeing the results you hope for. In the meantime if you don't achieve a TC, this how I would spend the meantime: [LIST=1] [*][B]Any entry level Paralegal Position [/B]and [B]With experience moving to a commercial law firm and applying internally. [/B]My TC offer is from the firm I work at now as a Paralegal. I am sure I was privy to plenty of information that other candidates found it much more elusive to come by. [*][B]Reflect on Feedback[/B]: It seems you've already been doing this, but continue to seek out and reflect deeply on any feedback you receive from interviews and applications. Sometimes, even small adjustments in how you present your experiences or answer questions can make a significant difference. For example, I used the STAR method but added how I had reflected on that experience so STARR lol - worked pretty well. I also worked on broad commercial topics like supply chains, general interest rate trends and consequences, King's Budget. Also, if the firm is, for example, an energy specialist knowing the general trends of the EV market etc. this sort of application. [*][B]Apply early in the cycle (if you have completed a solid app)[/B]. My applications were submitted in the first 2 weeks of opening. I applied to 7 firms this cycle and got two final stage ACs. Prepare in advance and be ready for the window. In the meantime, focus on other roles to help your career each cycle you apply you will be a stronger candidate. [*][B]Masters?[/B]: Consider engaging in further professional development opportunities. This could include attending workshops on interview skills, networking, or even specific legal skills that are in demand. Sometimes, showing that you're actively working on improving and acquiring new skills can be appealing to employers. [*][B]Oxbridge Network?[/B]: Leverage your network, including your university's alumni, especially those working in the legal sector. They can offer invaluable advice, insights into their firms' hiring practices, or even mentorship. Networking can sometimes open doors that traditional applications cannot. My first Paralegal role was through a contact at a small firm I never heard of. After that I moved to a big commercial one because I had more exp. [/LIST] [B]Note: [/B]Your failure won't define but your response to it will. Obtaining a TC takes time and it will happen as you go through these cycles. [/QUOTE]
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