Anyone heard back from W&C??
i would say to never give up. and maybe follow up on your applications to the other firms?Just got a Macfarlanes PFO too. So far, my PFOs are Macfarlanes, Simmons, Jones Day and Clifford Chance. Still waiting on 2Birds, Hogan Lovells, DLA and HSF - but considering they have all already sent out AC invites, I'm expecting PFOs from all of them.
At this stage, I feel like my chances are close to zero. I'm already 25 and did a vacation scheme last year at Travers Smith, but I wasn't successful at getting a TC (I only got the VS interview because of a disability interview scheme). I've done a lot at this point, I've attended almost a dozen Open Days and events, and I currently work as a paralegal. Clifford Chance did give me feedback, but the feedback I got was basically, 'your application is great, and we have no feedback; you'll do great in other applications, you were just beaten out by other applicants at CC.'
At what point do I just jump ship and give up? This is my third application cycle. I know so much about so many different law firms and have met so many people; I really just don't know what is going wrong.
Anyways sorry for the long-winded post. I feel like I just needed to vent. Two questions for everyone: Does/has anyone felt the same way? And what's the best way to get honest critiques on applications after a PFO?
Thanks all, and good work to everyone who has an offer
I'd recommend maybe using TCLA's app review services to see what the points of improvement are on your written applications! I was rejected from all but one of like 20 applications 2 years ago but this year I've spent much longer on each app and have had much more success. Sometimes it's really about spending a little more time on the details and maybe getting another set of eyes to review it objectively.Just got a Macfarlanes PFO too. So far, my PFOs are Macfarlanes, Simmons, Jones Day and Clifford Chance. Still waiting on 2Birds, Hogan Lovells, DLA and HSF - but considering they have all already sent out AC invites, I'm expecting PFOs from all of them.
At this stage, I feel like my chances are close to zero. I'm already 25 and did a vacation scheme last year at Travers Smith, but I wasn't successful at getting a TC (I only got the VS interview because of a disability interview scheme). I've done a lot at this point, I've attended almost a dozen Open Days and events, and I currently work as a paralegal. Clifford Chance did give me feedback, but the feedback I got was basically, 'your application is great, and we have no feedback; you'll do great in other applications, you were just beaten out by other applicants at CC.'
At what point do I just jump ship and give up? This is my third application cycle. I know so much about so many different law firms and have met so many people; I really just don't know what is going wrong.
Anyways sorry for the long-winded post. I feel like I just needed to vent. Two questions for everyone: Does/has anyone felt the same way? And what's the best way to get honest critiques on applications after a PFO?
Thanks all, and good work to everyone who has an offer
I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said, re advice. However, just going to say that Bird&Bird are often quite slow with their turnaround, silence from HSF seems to mean that they're still considering you, and no one seems to know how DLA operate (i.e. no news is not necessarily bad news). Best of luck, and really do keep going!Just got a Macfarlanes PFO too. So far, my PFOs are Macfarlanes, Simmons, Jones Day and Clifford Chance. Still waiting on 2Birds, Hogan Lovells, DLA and HSF - but considering they have all already sent out AC invites, I'm expecting PFOs from all of them.
At this stage, I feel like my chances are close to zero. I'm already 25 and did a vacation scheme last year at Travers Smith, but I wasn't successful at getting a TC (I only got the VS interview because of a disability interview scheme). I've done a lot at this point, I've attended almost a dozen Open Days and events, and I currently work as a paralegal. Clifford Chance did give me feedback, but the feedback I got was basically, 'your application is great, and we have no feedback; you'll do great in other applications, you were just beaten out by other applicants at CC.'
At what point do I just jump ship and give up? This is my third application cycle. I know so much about so many different law firms and have met so many people; I really just don't know what is going wrong.
Anyways sorry for the long-winded post. I feel like I just needed to vent. Two questions for everyone: Does/has anyone felt the same way? And what's the best way to get honest critiques on applications after a PFO?
Thanks all, and good work to everyone who has an offer
hey! just wanted to provide some comfort and let you know that i'm in this with you- i spent a week on my a&o app and got a pfo, got rejected by hogan lovells too even after visiting their offices both in the UK and my home country, so we're kinda in the same boat! hsf has been my dream firm since y1, and i can assure you that even with a fast-track to their summer vac scheme, i have not heard back (i think they've only sent out invites for spring ACs), so don't assume a PFO just yet (i also know that they've sent out mass rejections for summer so fingers crossed really)!Just got a Macfarlanes PFO too. So far, my PFOs are Macfarlanes, Simmons, Jones Day and Clifford Chance. Still waiting on 2Birds, Hogan Lovells, DLA and HSF - but considering they have all already sent out AC invites, I'm expecting PFOs from all of them.
At this stage, I feel like my chances are close to zero. I'm already 25 and did a vacation scheme last year at Travers Smith, but I wasn't successful at getting a TC (I only got the VS interview because of a disability interview scheme). I've done a lot at this point, I've attended almost a dozen Open Days and events, and I currently work as a paralegal. Clifford Chance did give me feedback, but the feedback I got was basically, 'your application is great, and we have no feedback; you'll do great in other applications, you were just beaten out by other applicants at CC.'
At what point do I just jump ship and give up? This is my third application cycle. I know so much about so many different law firms and have met so many people; I really just don't know what is going wrong.
Anyways sorry for the long-winded post. I feel like I just needed to vent. Two questions for everyone: Does/has anyone felt the same way? And what's the best way to get honest critiques on applications after a PFO?
Thanks all, and good work to everyone who has an offer
I got a PFO from HSF on 04.01.23, after passing their test. So I'd assume you're still in the running for HSF if you haven't heard yet. And I haven't heard from Hogan Lovells yet after taking the WG last Wednesday if that's any help (I'm not aware they've sent out AC invites). Definitely don't give up and best of luck!Just got a Macfarlanes PFO too. So far, my PFOs are Macfarlanes, Simmons, Jones Day and Clifford Chance. Still waiting on 2Birds, Hogan Lovells, DLA and HSF - but considering they have all already sent out AC invites, I'm expecting PFOs from all of them.
At this stage, I feel like my chances are close to zero. I'm already 25 and did a vacation scheme last year at Travers Smith, but I wasn't successful at getting a TC (I only got the VS interview because of a disability interview scheme). I've done a lot at this point, I've attended almost a dozen Open Days and events, and I currently work as a paralegal. Clifford Chance did give me feedback, but the feedback I got was basically, 'your application is great, and we have no feedback; you'll do great in other applications, you were just beaten out by other applicants at CC.'
At what point do I just jump ship and give up? This is my third application cycle. I know so much about so many different law firms and have met so many people; I really just don't know what is going wrong.
Anyways sorry for the long-winded post. I feel like I just needed to vent. Two questions for everyone: Does/has anyone felt the same way? And what's the best way to get honest critiques on applications after a PFO?
Thanks all, and good work to everyone who has an offer
I haven't done it yet (planning to do it on Tuesday night) but I've heard from other people that there are two questions. Not sure about timings.To anyone who has done the Bristows VI: how many questions were there and how long do they ask you to speak for?
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks.For those who got the ‘application on hold‘ email from CC saying they would let us know in w/c 6th Feb if we get an AC, what do you think are our actual chances? Has anyone heard of this happening in past years and people actually being invited to AC?
Just two questions?! I was not expecting that. Irwin Mitchell had 6.I haven't done it yet (planning to do it on Tuesday night) but I've heard from other people that there are two questions. Not sure about timings.
Thanks for clarification.Not sure, but in my experience this happened to a firm I applied for in this cycle. They asked for my high school transcript and a week later I received an AC invite!
If you believe that commercial law is the career for you then don’t give up. I’m 27, this is my fourth app cycle, and this is first time I’ve made it past the app/test stage. You on the other hand, got a vac scheme in your second cycle and you are a paralegal so that just speaks to your potential.Just got a Macfarlanes PFO too. So far, my PFOs are Macfarlanes, Simmons, Jones Day and Clifford Chance. Still waiting on 2Birds, Hogan Lovells, DLA and HSF - but considering they have all already sent out AC invites, I'm expecting PFOs from all of them.
At this stage, I feel like my chances are close to zero. I'm already 25 and did a vacation scheme last year at Travers Smith, but I wasn't successful at getting a TC (I only got the VS interview because of a disability interview scheme). I've done a lot at this point, I've attended almost a dozen Open Days and events, and I currently work as a paralegal. Clifford Chance did give me feedback, but the feedback I got was basically, 'your application is great, and we have no feedback; you'll do great in other applications, you were just beaten out by other applicants at CC.'
At what point do I just jump ship and give up? This is my third application cycle. I know so much about so many different law firms and have met so many people; I really just don't know what is going wrong.
Anyways sorry for the long-winded post. I feel like I just needed to vent. Two questions for everyone: Does/has anyone felt the same way? And what's the best way to get honest critiques on applications after a PFO?
Thanks all, and good work to everyone who has an offer
Hey! Can't seem to message you. If you could message me with tips that would be great!Those with a Latham VI I’ve tips on what will come up if you wanna message me
I know the deadline is fast approaching!