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<blockquote data-quote="RANDOTRON" data-source="post: 122435" data-attributes="member: 16724"><p>No problem! I understand how you feel as I felt that way too but you have to remember that (a) not everyone has a LinkedIn profile, (b) not everyone who gets a TC will post about it, and (c) just because a firm used to recruit more from RG doesn't mean that they still do. In my opinion, LinkedIn, while a great tool for networking, is a terrible way to measure a firm's recruitment pool. I believe you've got what it takes so just keep pushing and don't give up! You only need one 'yes' and if you are right for the firm, the firm will choose you.</p><p></p><p>As for tips to stand-out, I would attend insight/open days and ask specific questions after having researched the firm. Generic questions like what is the culture like doesn't help your application (in my opinion) because I bet most times you will get a generic answer from the responder. What good is a generic answer when the aim is to have an application that stands out? You want answers that help you elevate a point on why you want to work for that particular firm.</p><p></p><p>I would also suggest you do a range of activities which can be internships (which can be non-legal), completing online courses, running societies, joining your university's pro bono practice, etc. The more you do, the more experiences you have to draw upon in your applications. Now, that being said, you don't want to do stuff just for the sake of doing stuff. Do stuff for a reason (to increase your knowledge, build teamwork, give back to your community, or whatever it is) because it will show that you are methodical, driven and efficient person. If part of your reason for wanting to go to a particular firm is for their expertise in a practice area that you are interested in, do stuff that enable you to develop your knowledge in that area so you can talk about your experience in your application. It bolsters the genuineness and believability of your interest in that particular area. </p><p></p><p>Another tip is to practice, practice and practice at every stage. If you're writing applications, research and practice drafting. Recruiters, beyond seeing whether you have a genuine motivation for law and for the firm, are also looking at your writing skills and your attention to detail. Namely, can you write clearer and concisely? The only way you know is by asking your peers to read your applications and poke holes in it – tell them to be brutal in their review. Also ask yourself: 'is there a better way I can structure this sentence to be more clear?' and 'is what I have written here really answering why I am interested in commercial law/the firm?'. If you're doing interviews, search through TCLA forums to see if there's a list of questions that candidates have previously been asked. The STAR method is key in interviews. Prepare a word document with your answers to those questions and have your peers review it – and, as you can guess, practice!</p><p></p><p>If at the end of the day, you don't get into one firm, don't get hung up. Consider it a practice round to improve on the next one.</p><p></p><p>One final note, I wholeheartedly recommend TCLA's application review service if you are able to shell out the money for it. The gold membership service has a pretty good package where you can review past successful applications to help you improve yours. I believe there is also a firm profile page where you can read the research done by the TCLA team regarding various firms, as well as an interview practice service. Full disclosure, I'm not sponsored by TCLA nor affiliated with them in any way beyond having this account. I only suggested the gold membership, because I previously used it myself, as have many of my friends. My endorsement comes from my genuine personal experience with the services, and I do understand it can be pricey for some, but if you can afford it, I genuinely recommend getting it for a month and see if you like it.</p><p></p><p>You got this! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RANDOTRON, post: 122435, member: 16724"] No problem! I understand how you feel as I felt that way too but you have to remember that (a) not everyone has a LinkedIn profile, (b) not everyone who gets a TC will post about it, and (c) just because a firm used to recruit more from RG doesn't mean that they still do. In my opinion, LinkedIn, while a great tool for networking, is a terrible way to measure a firm's recruitment pool. I believe you've got what it takes so just keep pushing and don't give up! You only need one 'yes' and if you are right for the firm, the firm will choose you. As for tips to stand-out, I would attend insight/open days and ask specific questions after having researched the firm. Generic questions like what is the culture like doesn't help your application (in my opinion) because I bet most times you will get a generic answer from the responder. What good is a generic answer when the aim is to have an application that stands out? You want answers that help you elevate a point on why you want to work for that particular firm. I would also suggest you do a range of activities which can be internships (which can be non-legal), completing online courses, running societies, joining your university's pro bono practice, etc. The more you do, the more experiences you have to draw upon in your applications. Now, that being said, you don't want to do stuff just for the sake of doing stuff. Do stuff for a reason (to increase your knowledge, build teamwork, give back to your community, or whatever it is) because it will show that you are methodical, driven and efficient person. If part of your reason for wanting to go to a particular firm is for their expertise in a practice area that you are interested in, do stuff that enable you to develop your knowledge in that area so you can talk about your experience in your application. It bolsters the genuineness and believability of your interest in that particular area. Another tip is to practice, practice and practice at every stage. If you're writing applications, research and practice drafting. Recruiters, beyond seeing whether you have a genuine motivation for law and for the firm, are also looking at your writing skills and your attention to detail. Namely, can you write clearer and concisely? The only way you know is by asking your peers to read your applications and poke holes in it – tell them to be brutal in their review. Also ask yourself: 'is there a better way I can structure this sentence to be more clear?' and 'is what I have written here really answering why I am interested in commercial law/the firm?'. If you're doing interviews, search through TCLA forums to see if there's a list of questions that candidates have previously been asked. The STAR method is key in interviews. Prepare a word document with your answers to those questions and have your peers review it – and, as you can guess, practice! If at the end of the day, you don't get into one firm, don't get hung up. Consider it a practice round to improve on the next one. One final note, I wholeheartedly recommend TCLA's application review service if you are able to shell out the money for it. The gold membership service has a pretty good package where you can review past successful applications to help you improve yours. I believe there is also a firm profile page where you can read the research done by the TCLA team regarding various firms, as well as an interview practice service. Full disclosure, I'm not sponsored by TCLA nor affiliated with them in any way beyond having this account. I only suggested the gold membership, because I previously used it myself, as have many of my friends. My endorsement comes from my genuine personal experience with the services, and I do understand it can be pricey for some, but if you can afford it, I genuinely recommend getting it for a month and see if you like it. You got this! :D [/QUOTE]
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