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<blockquote data-quote="Jacob Miller" data-source="post: 46656" data-attributes="member: 5063"><p>Hi Courtney, </p><p></p><p>First of all, congratulations on all your achievements to date! That's a very impressive CV you've got there. </p><p></p><p>In terms of what is "enough", it's somewhat challenging to answer in those terms. It's much more about how you manage to justify <strong>why</strong> those things are important to you: for example, is there some sort of personal connection with these areas that particularly attracts you? That is far more important than just abstract knowledge of the firm's activities. That said, those things are good options to write about if you can make that connection. Another thing to consider is the importance of ensuring that you make clear how these things make NRF different from other firms. What are they doing that others aren't? How do their offerings in these areas make them a more attractive proposition for clients than another City firm? </p><p></p><p>In terms of language skills, past internships, etc, the important stuff to bear in mind isn't just that you've done them, but everything you've actually learned from them and how that increased knowledge makes you a better candidate than others who may be applying for the same position. Think here about transferable skills as well as industry-specific skills. For example, if you've had in-house work experience, you may have learned therefrom about the specific needs and considerations of clients when they're appointing a private practice firm. Having an understanding of issues like this may help differentiate you from other candidates. </p><p></p><p>In terms of VS application as opposed to direct TC, this is something I'm maybe not in such a great position to comment on with specific reference to NRF as my application was for a VS. Both are very valid and pose different challenges. For example, VS applications will often be even more oversubscribed than direct TC apps in my experience- they do, though, give the firm a better chance to get to know you (and vice versa) before offering you a TC. They also give you a better understanding of the firm for discussion in an exit interview, so you may be able to provide unique information that you wouldn't have in a direct TC app. </p><p>In my opinion- and it is only my opinion, this is somewhat controversial- I tend to believe that, making a direct TC app or a VS app for a firm you haven't yet interacted with personally, there is far less legitimacy to discussing in any depth the culture of the firm. Quite simply, you haven't experienced it. To that end, applying for and completing a VS gives you a much more legitimate position when discussing the firm's culture than, in my opinion, a direct TC app does. On the other hand, a direct TC app may give you less 'hoops' to jump through as you don't have the 5-10 days of constant assessment that comprises a VS to take into account. There are definite pros and cons to each model, so something that you probably want to consider with regard to your specific needs, wants and circumstances.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jacob Miller, post: 46656, member: 5063"] Hi Courtney, First of all, congratulations on all your achievements to date! That's a very impressive CV you've got there. In terms of what is "enough", it's somewhat challenging to answer in those terms. It's much more about how you manage to justify [B]why[/B] those things are important to you: for example, is there some sort of personal connection with these areas that particularly attracts you? That is far more important than just abstract knowledge of the firm's activities. That said, those things are good options to write about if you can make that connection. Another thing to consider is the importance of ensuring that you make clear how these things make NRF different from other firms. What are they doing that others aren't? How do their offerings in these areas make them a more attractive proposition for clients than another City firm? In terms of language skills, past internships, etc, the important stuff to bear in mind isn't just that you've done them, but everything you've actually learned from them and how that increased knowledge makes you a better candidate than others who may be applying for the same position. Think here about transferable skills as well as industry-specific skills. For example, if you've had in-house work experience, you may have learned therefrom about the specific needs and considerations of clients when they're appointing a private practice firm. Having an understanding of issues like this may help differentiate you from other candidates. In terms of VS application as opposed to direct TC, this is something I'm maybe not in such a great position to comment on with specific reference to NRF as my application was for a VS. Both are very valid and pose different challenges. For example, VS applications will often be even more oversubscribed than direct TC apps in my experience- they do, though, give the firm a better chance to get to know you (and vice versa) before offering you a TC. They also give you a better understanding of the firm for discussion in an exit interview, so you may be able to provide unique information that you wouldn't have in a direct TC app. In my opinion- and it is only my opinion, this is somewhat controversial- I tend to believe that, making a direct TC app or a VS app for a firm you haven't yet interacted with personally, there is far less legitimacy to discussing in any depth the culture of the firm. Quite simply, you haven't experienced it. To that end, applying for and completing a VS gives you a much more legitimate position when discussing the firm's culture than, in my opinion, a direct TC app does. On the other hand, a direct TC app may give you less 'hoops' to jump through as you don't have the 5-10 days of constant assessment that comprises a VS to take into account. There are definite pros and cons to each model, so something that you probably want to consider with regard to your specific needs, wants and circumstances. [/QUOTE]
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